Not a big deal, a CPU will last well over 8 years these days.
It's only a problem for those buying every generation... well it isn't, cuz apparantly they have money to blow.
Market will say otherwise.
US market already predicting slow down in hiring, inflation and higher interests rates mean people will borrow and spend LESS. Economy is going to tigthen up.
Intel, AMD, Nvidia and other tech companies reaped hybrid work from home, PC sales boomed and these companies TOOK all the profits from miners and consumers trying to stay relevant and keep their jobs.
After this, I predict stay-cation will be the next boom because ppl are fed up being locked up and need REAL WORLD to take a break from the Virtual World. Even if going nearby to other cities or outdoor places.
Spending will be hard goods now, less tech so suck it... Yeh, the portfolio will suffer but I don't enjoy profiting off people's misery so let it be. Those high tech crooks over earned when they did.
Not a big deal, a CPU will last well over 8 years these days.
It's only a problem for those buying every generation... well it isn't, cuz apparantly they have money to blow.
8 years is a bit of a strech. Thats a 4770/4790k today so try pairing the 3080 with those cpus, it would be bottleneck fest.
"Hey, we have a 9% boost for you. At 10 to 20% increased price. How many do you want?" -- Intel sales person
Honestly, they're making millions and billions every year, and when they have to swallow price increases one time, they don't. How should one have any sympathy with those companies at all?
Same AMD and Nvidia, they all had major profits, of which none end up having positive impact for the computer DIY business in general or the consumer. And then they want us to have "brand loyality"... yeah right.
Well if AMD go the same route it makes it easier to avoid upgrading to Zen 4 or Intel. I was looking at 12700K if AMD couldn't provide a 8-core chip that wasn't an inferno but it will be OK to sit on 5600 for a while.
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Seriously what is up with AMDs 8-core parts when it come to power/thermals. 12 and 16 core are nice.
Something tells me increasing prices on the brink of worldwide recession and austerity measures is not the brightest idea. Then again, being out of touch is pretty much a headline of the tech industry. Genuinely curious how this will work out for them.
With the way inflation is and the pending food chain issues. I would not be shocked if computers move back into the optional category for many. Many will do everything from their phone.
With the way inflation is and the pending food chain issues. I would not be shocked if computers move back into the optional category for many. Many will do everything from their phone.
And phone sale slow down too, the age of phone is now around 7 yo for android and 8 yo for ios 🙁 mean that some app update missing to do everything on it... Also most smartphone have only 4 app installed outside OEM pack by statistic.
In the end we will live in cave and do fire with stone... lol.
A good option for many people that want basics machines (Desktops or Laptops) is the refurbished market, it is growing again with a lots availability from brands like Lenovo, HP, Toshiba, Dell... Grade A machines with warranty can have some great prices nowadays.
Not a big deal, a CPU will last well over 8 years these days.
It's only a problem for those buying every generation... well it isn't, cuz apparantly they have money to blow.
In performance terms, yes. In logevity terms, maybe now. Pushing them at small nodes to power and thermal limits as they are won't end well...
8 years is a bit of a strech. Thats a 4770/4790k today so try pairing the 3080 with those cpus, it would be bottleneck fest.
My 2700x bottlenecked the piss out of my 6800xt.
If your playing 3440x1440 or higher, you can definitely get away with it.
I had a 4790k recently i sold.
And it could maintain 80-100fps 1080p in most titles with my 6800xt. But cpu usuage
was high as hell 85-95% in most new titles.
As much as I want to get AM5, I think im gonna get a 5900x or 5800x3d.
My 5600x feels the strain good to push 144fps in games my 6800xt is not struggling.
I finally replaced my trusty 4790k because of lag spikes in some AAA games. The overall average FPS was still fine though. I gave that PC away with an RX580 and it's still in gaming use because it's still a pretty good CPU, 8 years later.
A 6-core 12400 is a pretty solid gaming deal @ under $200. I saw the 5600x selling for that low too, last week. I think a decent 6 core is all we need for now and both of those kick ass at gaming.
8 years is a bit of a strech. Thats a 4770/4790k today so try pairing the 3080 with those cpus, it would be bottleneck fest.
I get your point but that's not the most fair comparison. Haswell was released at a time when there was no competition. But even then, the fact that an 8 year old CPU can still play some modern games at 1080p and 60Hz shows how slowly CPU demand has evolved in games.
People keep thinking that more cores automatically means better performance, but that's simply not true. Software has to be designed to scale up, and games tend to scale up very poorly. For every thread you add, you are decreasing the maximum frame rate. That's why most modern games tend to not really get any faster with more than 12 threads, I assume because that's the point of diminishing returns (in other cases, there's no functional purpose to add more threads). Many things that could use more CPU cores (like physics engines or improved computer player AIs) are done by GPUs instead. So, I think @TheDeeGee is right - unless games see some revolutionary change in the way they demand CPU power, getting something with at least 16 threads will serve you for many years.
So long as you have a CPU that exceeds the performance of consoles, you don't really need to get anything better.
fantaskarsef:
"Hey, we have a 9% boost for you. At 10 to 20% increased price. How many do you want?" -- Intel sales person
Yup, and don't forget the hefty increase in power draw too.
Honestly, they're making millions and billions every year, and when they have to swallow price increases one time, they don't. How should one have any sympathy with those companies at all?
Same AMD and Nvidia, they all had major profits, of which none end up having positive impact for the computer DIY business in general or the consumer. And then they want us to have "brand loyality"... yeah right.
I agree. This is why I hate the stock market - all these businesses care about is higher profits (obviously every business cares about profits, but not all care about exceeding their previous year's profits). They do the bare minimum to stay ahead only to make sure they get more sales than the competition. They are only incentivized to lower prices when their sales doesn't meet/exceed their expected revenue. They are only incentivized to make a better product when customer complaints are getting a little too loud.
Well if AMD go the same route it makes it easier to avoid upgrading to Zen 4 or Intel. I was looking at 12700K if AMD couldn't provide a 8-core chip that wasn't an inferno but it will be OK to sit on 5600 for a while. edit Seriously what is up with AMDs 8-core parts when it come to power/thermals. 12 and 16 core are nice.