Intel reduces prices for Core 9000 series F (no IGP) range + Xeon W 2200 Range
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airbud7
not much of a price drop....still great to see anything cheaper...$
Embra
Eight listing with only one having HT.
Nice to see drop in pricing, but how much more performance will there be over the non "f"?
H83
Agree, the price drops should be bigger but it´s better than nothing. And it´s all thanks to AMD, so thanks AMD!!!
Exodite
These aren't new chips, we already know the answer is "none". It's just harvested chips with a non-functional GPU.
The biggest issue with these chips previously was that they were priced the same as the non-F versions but offered less features. I'm not saying this minimal price drop is enough to make up for it but at least it acknowledges that these are worse parts.
airbud7
you got that right^...heck I'm (was) an intel fanboy I tell ya!...
AMD has made everything faster and cheaper!...Gotta love that!
D3M1G0D
Yup. They should have been cheaper to begin with.
Kool64
If they actually cut the IGP physically off the die then it might be worth buying for the power leaching an heat savings. However they are obsolete once the KS drops since there is no point in buying anything but the fastest chip.
Loophole35
Glad I got my 9900kf at $420 shipped.
illrigger
So, they are basically reducing prices to slightly higher than their 7-series chips used to be. Remember, these are mostly chips where the iGPU failed to pass testing and would have been trash before this production shortage, so they are still making far more profit than they ever would have even after the cuts.
TheDeeGee
Lol @ Hyper-Threading No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.
ladcrooks
I cannot be bothered to compare whats what - are they reducing BECAUSE they have no IGP?
illrigger
Basically, yeah. They are directly competing with Ryzen 3000 prices, since they also don't have an iGPU. And by "directly competing" I mean they made prices more similar even though the AMD chips have SMT and Intel doesn't at most of them. Which is a little sad because some of the latest games are actually getting starved for threads on the i5 vs Ryzen 3000 when using a high end GPU, and there's literally no reason why Intel can't enable HT on the i5. They could be wiping the floor value wise with the Ryzen 3600, but they specifically choose not to for some reason.
americoliveira
They dropped 25 dollars on each, certainly that the margin in the 9900kf is much bigger
asturur
Do you think the difference between a i9600k ( i5 with gpu ) with HT enabled, and a 3600 without gpu, would be so much to be defined as floor wiping?
the i5 9600k is priced between a 3600x and a 3700, so it would cost more than a 3600, offering more game performance ( with HT ) but costing more for a non useful iGpu.
schmidtbag
I'm a bit surprised Intel hasn't made a "no-IGP" range back when they had supply issues. A lot of people don't want/use them, it's making Intel's products more expensive, and it's slowing down Intel's production. Despite how slow those GPUs are for gaming, they actually take up a pretty decent chunk of the die. That's a lot of transistors that could be put to making more cores. This is the Kaby Lake map, but let's face it, things haven't changed a whole lot since then:
https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2016/12/kbl-s-42_circuit-map-100700584-orig.jpg
I think his point was for the entire product line to be shifted around a bit, starting with the i5 having HT. But, HT isn't what it used to be, thanks to all the security issues. Nowadays, an i5 is arguably a better value than an i7.
