Intel Raptor Lake ES is 9% faster in Single-Core Performance over Alder Lake

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Okay....
Despite utilizing a 360 AIO cooler, the 13900K hit 100°C peak temperature and started to throttle in Intel's XTU tool. Furthermore, the PL4 (package) power is said to have reached 420W.
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Intel knew Gas supply would be tight.... 500w Intel Heating LoL
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fantaskarsef:

Okay....
incomplete bios,
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fantaskarsef:

Okay....
Ouch!
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I thought e-cores were going to be useless, but they do seem to bring a substantial improvement for MT performance. color me surprised with that 35% figure. they should have done it already on 12th gen, meaning throw more e-cores in. with 8p+4e/20t they fell a little short of 5900x 12c/24t in multi threaded performance, while with 24t (8+8e) they'd beat it, as they should. They sold mainly gaming performance, while waiting to drop more e-cores on 13th gen. 5900x is cheaper now and beats 12700 in MT.
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Astyanax:

incomplete bios,
You mean, with properly "final" or release BIOS, they'll change much about temp? Maybe limit it sooner?
FlyBy:

Intel knew Gas supply would be tight.... 500w Intel Heating LoL
Paired with a new Nvidia GPU, one truely might reach 1kW TDP that helps to noticiibly heat up your room...
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Who needs to cool it anyway, right?right???
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Not a big jump in IPC compare to 12th gen. Still welcome, tough.
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Be nice to have some legal mandate on TDP - 150 W max at turbo maybe? Have to be able to be cooled by the stock air cooler...
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12th gen is already very strong (IPC wise), so 9% boost by improving clock speed is good enough.
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I hope there is something wrong with the voltage table or all core enhance is on or something, because 400W and 100C on a 360 AIO is not looking good.
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420W? Those are rookie numbers, Intel. Wake me up when you've got a chip that uses 500W from the factory on LGA 1700. I want to see my circuit breaker trip!
cucaulay malkin:

I thought e-cores were going to be useless, but they do seem to bring a substantial improvement for MT performance. color me surprised with that 35% figure.
Funny thing is I thought the E-cores were going to be slower but less power-hungry.
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schmidtbag:

I thought the E-cores were going to be slower but less power-hungry.
they are
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cucaulay malkin:

I thought e-cores were going to be useless, but they do seem to bring a substantial improvement for MT performance. color me surprised with that 35% figure. they should have done it already on 12th gen, meaning throw more e-cores in. with 8p+4e/20t they fell a little short of 5900x 12c/24t in multi threaded performance, while with 24t (8+8e) they'd beat it, as they should. They sold mainly gaming performance, while waiting to drop more e-cores on 13th gen. 5900x is cheaper now and beats 12700 in MT.
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E-waste cores ARE completely useless for gaming, and will more often than not lower gaming performance vs being disabled. Yes, e-waste cores increases workstation application performance, but the i5/i7/i9 are consumer products, on which the e-waste cores are wasted... no e-waste cores and more p-cores, tyvm !
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Dragam1337:

E-waste cores ARE completely useless for gaming, and will more often than not lower gaming performance vs being disabled. Yes, e-waste cores increases workstation application performance, but the i5/i7/i9 are consumer products, on which the e-waste cores are wasted... no e-waste cores and more p-cores, tyvm !
i9 were consumer products? goddammit those liers. I've no idea how I've been using this for work all this time. Time to get a slow multicore xeon cpu, that'll do it.
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Dragam1337:

e-waste cores increases workstation application performance, but the i5/i7/i9 are consumer products, on which the e-waste cores are wasted.
so consumers don't run applications ?
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cucaulay malkin:

so consumers don't run applications ?
Sure, but they are singlethread limited for the most part - only heavy workststion applications makes use of that many cores, which the vast majority of consumers dont use.
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IceVip:

i9 were consumer products? goddammit those liers. I've no idea how I've been using this for work all this time. Time to get a slow multicore xeon cpu, that'll do it.
You are using the HEDT platform, not the consumer platform... intentionally being daft, eh...
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Dragam1337:

only heavy workststion applications makes use of that many cores
that's just not true

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