Intel Processor Refresh in Spring - 100 MHz bumps
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sverek
That's a whole Pentium1 performance boost!
Undying
The whole 100mhz increase, amazing.
4ghz Pentium tho 😀
BLEH!
With a price bump to boot I bet 😉
fantaskarsef
Yawn.
cryohellinc
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nevcairiel
I don't get the point of that list. All of the 9th series CPUs listed on there aren't exactly new. The 9400, 9600K, 9700K, and 9900K already exist. So is this just about mid-range to low-end refreshes?
shamus21
You have to remember they are last years stock that they could not sell due to over the top prices that have been repackaged. Just the same process the supermarket use when they can not sell products that go past the sell by date, dry goods/ tin products etc. go back to producer / manufacturer get re-dated and where necessary repackaged. Other wise they get dumped in land fill. Nvidia is very good at that one 😀
Fox2232
Somebody has to pay for intel's multi year push to 10nm.
fantaskarsef
Absolutely true, either reused chips or a slight improvement in the production process which allows them generall higher binning, but nothing new at all.
Why you're referring to Nvidia isn't beyond me totally, but there'd be other companies coming to my mind before them tbh.
HardwareCaps
Yikes, Intel is on panic mode.
Zen 2 is coming Intel, prepare your butthole
warlord
They are not worried at all. In gaming AMD is gonna lose even from sub 200€ intel's cpu.
Intel and Nvidia are the only option for pure gaming and legit enthusiasts. That ain't gonna change any time soon. This is quite depressing.
Undying
Times change man and we will be part of it, just wait
warlord
As an enthusiast myself with mid range rig, I follow the news. All benchmarks made with AMD systems are the lowest rankings. Even with Ryzen and/or RX gpus. Even if times changed, they need more work. Improvements are there, but not enough. Not enough to dethrone blue or green dictators.
HardwareCaps
What are you talking about? look at the top sellers on Amazon. the ryzen 5 2600 is selling in the thousands.
Zen 2 will have better clocks and higher IPC. intel are in a big problem
nevcairiel
From what has been shown or leaked so far, better clocks and higher IPC then Zen 1, not Intel.
The only real tool in AMDs toolbox seems to be throwing cores at the problem. Personally, I don't like that strategy anymore. I don't need 16 cores in a consumer desktop CPU. I rather have more ST power.
HardwareCaps
Completely agree on the fact that over a certain amount of threads the gaming performance increase is minimal/zero BUT
amd and intel are much much closer in IPC than you think, the differences we see are because of clocks. here's Hilbert great IPC test:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_5_2600_review,9.html
https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=40418
even a 10% IPC gain means AMD is basically the same as Intel. Ryzen 3000 series is using TSMC's 7nm which should hit much higher clocks then GLoF 14nm.
Leaks show 4.5GHZ mainstream chips, with the power savings of 7nm I bet Ryzen 3000 is going to be *faster* than Intel at stock clocks. mark my words.
slicer
People here asking for better ST performance dont understand, that 5.5ghz is about max where we have room to go. In next 5-7 years. St performance was an old way of doing things. Parallel processing/computing is a way forward. Right now ST prorgramming rules, because 4Cores was a norm just 2 years ago. Developers are slowly but steadily adjusting to more core count CPUs. Because of the hard 5.5ghz fall ahead of us. Even at 3nm manufacturing process. Only way to get more performance is to add cores and programs that are built to use multiple threads at same time. ST performance cheering is like cheering for the use of coal in the age of rocketfuel.
Silva
You don't need to win to be successful, Zen has shown this 2 times already.
The majority of sales revenue come from the server and then mainstream, not the enthusiast market.
AMD has to grab confidence and cut through the Intel brainwash all these years, that's hard to do.
For me the best price/performance wins, and that's AMD right now.
The Intel+Nvidia combo are only useful for people that want/need high refresh rate (+100) as AMD hardware is capable of delivering similar performance for considerably less money (except GPU top end).
Also, AMD has been closing on Intel with Zen+. And wile Intel figures out 10nm, TSCM 7nm will get AMD where it needs to be: in front of Intel. Although, probably for a short period, but it will cut through marketshare and mindshare.
Fox2232
RTX OFF: *intel has some lead in high fps scenarios
RTX ON: *CPU Clock advantage? Who cares about CPU clock? Nobody cares!
HWgeek
I am almost sure that Zen 2.0 goint to have Equal or even better single core performance then Intel's 9900K, Remember if the ES 8 Core Zen2 was head to head with 9900K thar run @ 4.7Ghz all core turbo, then add ~5% for single core boost and you get at least 9900K single core performance level, what do you need more?
