Intel Preps for 4K with Intel Iris Graphics 6100
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BadAssMusician
Looks like the Info from Notebookcheck, from its format. Gonna be interesting how Broadwell is gonna turn out with the new Iris.
maize1951
I think IF Intel wanted to, Intel could give both NVidia and ATI very good competition in the high end GPU market. But right now their is no way they can compete with NVidia or ATI in the high end graphics.
Fox2232
intel's playable 30fps where games having same graphical settings in menus, but totally different image rendered...
Intel cuts from games so much more than nVidia and that cuts from games just a tiny bit more than AMD, to point it does not matter.
Denial
I mean obviously they could if they wanted too. They would just throw money at the problem, but why would they want to? There isn't really room for another high end graphics player and they'd need to throw a lot of money at it. I mean AMD was going to tackle graphics themselves before they realized how hard it was going to be and ended up trying to buy Nvidia, then ultimately bought ATi.
Dunno, I don't really think there is a point for them to go into high end graphics.
Noisiv
So could Walmart or Amazon.
Tricky part is to MAKE money, not lose.
sykozis
Intel can compete in any market they choose to put a product in. The problem is, figuring out how to become profitable in new markets. It's hard for a company to enter a market and become profitable. Especially a market where people are less willing to shift from the incumbents. The SSD market was easy since it was so new. Intel is already struggling to make a profit in the mobile market. Had Intel done it years ago when they were rumored to be developing a GPU, they might have had a chance. Unfortunately, that rumored GPU became the Xeon Phi....which has no graphics capabilities at all.
maize1951
True.
icedman
A side from the ultra low tdp it looks like these igpu's wont even touch Amd's apu lineup in performance.
Cave Waverider
Simple. Provide a product with the same or superior quality and features and about double the performance or more of all competitors across the board for a lower price. If the initial product decisively trumps the competition in all aspects, they'll be able to establish themselves rather quickly. If not then...well, It'd be incredibly tough. 😉
-Tj-
I would like to see intel in gpu market too, these mini chips with multiple cores e.g. 528 would do some serious stuff. That's if one 6100 2 module 48cores x 11 = ~ 250-280W TDP
Anyone knows intel, so why wouldn't it sell good?
When I played with igpu4600 I could run any game @ lower reso and noaa.
And I noticed intel driver looked stabler, for example sweetFX worked ok by L4D2 loading screen video and intro video, with nvidia gpu I see black screen and have to skip both movies (happens only with sweetfx).
sykozis
It's not that easy.
The amount of money that would have to be poured into R&D for that initial product would require the cost be higher. Intel would have to invest billions to develop the first dedicated GPU if they wanted to come out with such a large advantage. It would take multiple product generations to recover the spending on the first generation alone. Intel's Board and investors are unlikely to go for a market where they'd have to take multiple years of losses before seeing profits.
Everyone knows Intel processors, but Intel has failed in the graphics market in the past. Just because they have a good reputation for CPU's, doesn't mean people would flock to a GPU made by Intel. Just look at NVidia. They have a good reputation for GPUs.....but nobody is flocking to their CPUs....
-Tj-
Yes but no one really cares what was in the past, at least I dont.
All I see what its capable now with just 24 or this newer 48 units.
Now add extra execution units e.g from default iris 6100 2 to 22 stream processors (528units) and Im pretty sure it would eat current gpus alive.
NuttyProcessor
They already tried that a few years ago, Named the 'Larrabee Project'. The Larrabee project itself as a consumer product was terminated due to lack of performance and delay after delay.
The launch was intended in 2008 to compete with mid and high end Nvidia/ATi counterparts, but at the time it was almost ready 2.5 years later (end 2010), the 1-teraflop-card was not fast enough to compete with the 5 teraflop cards of ATI/Nvidia.
The technology was adopted and R&D went on under the name Xeon Phi. The cores were used for co-processing instead of GPU purposes. 'Knights landing' is the name of the 72 atom cores counting, 4 threat per core Xeon Phi Chip.
In short, no, money doesn't buy everything, at least no high end competing GPU, or the knowledge to build one instantaniously.
nanogenesis
So if 20eus on hd4600 have 350~gflops and can play games like bl2 at 720p medium detail. I'm sure the 6100 with 48eus can do bl2 at high 720p with 50fps.
So in theory, an intel 8th gen GPU with 500~640eus could totally destroy current gpus, or change the game. It will be fun for a while until all 3 camps start with the 5% yearly gains.
Aura89
They tried, they failed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_%28microarchitecture%29
CalculuS
So what are these new Iris comparable to in desktop graphics? 4850? GTX 260? Performance-wise of course.
Cyberdyne
Well... the Iris 5200 was about as fast as a 8800GTX.
So maybe the 6100 will be as fast as a GTX280, if they follow up the generations, lol.
EDIT: Doubt it though, it seems to be very similar to the 5200 only with 8 more shaders.
CalculuS
Shows more about the performance of a 8800GTX than the 5200. But afterall its a low TDP chip.
Cyberdyne
And it take up like 10,000x less space lol. I'm just joking, but obviously we are no longer dealing with a foot long add in card.
MadGoo
The reason Intel does not go after the high end market is because the real money is in the low end market. Even AMD and Nvidia make more money in the low end over the high end. (GPU $under 140 US)
Everything follows a pattern, you and i can not control it... Once you see the pattern do you jump on board or do you swim against the current.
First off i am not saying the desktop is dead (or will die any time soon) but right now it is being moved over to on line sales. Yes most of us use NCIX, Newegg or other suppliers to buy anything desktop but the largest group of pc user buy from a big box store and right now it is hard to find desktops in stores (two years ago local Walmarts sold desktops but now none of the ones close to me do). Less profit in desktop but more profit in notebooks (we do live in a capitalist world).
So i do not see Intel ever going after the high end GPU market (heck even the high end CPU market is moving a lot slower than it did 10 years ago) Nvidia, AMD Intel are working so hard to get a foothold in the mobile market, because they believe the future is not a big large box but a small, mobile device. We might not like it but it seems to be how things are going right now.
