Yeah, I'm worried that intel is going to make them pricey. I can't spend much more than $1,200 on an entire rig.

Pricey? intel? nooo but then then again AMD hasnt been able to touch INTEL for very long time and that not gona change

I fell a bit out of the loop since getting this processor. Honestly, my 2600K is still quite the capable processor even now. Still, the upgrade itch comes every so often regardless of how logical it is to scratch it. Think I'll hold out for more price-friendly 6 or 8 core chips if I can.

Pricey? intel? nooo but then then again AMD hasnt been able to touch INTEL for very long time and that not gona change

Couldn't pay me to buy an AMD processor for my rig 😀 I might get the next equivalent to the 4770k or just the 4770k if the refresh is nearly the same, we'll see. I'll stop hijacking this thread now.

Couldn't pay me to buy an AMD processor for my rig 😀 I might get the next equivalent to the 4770k or just the 4770k if the refresh is nearly the same, we'll see. I'll stop hijacking this thread now.

You've been waiting to upgrade since you joined GURU3D ha ha.

You've been waiting to upgrade since you joined GURU3D ha ha.

I built the first one with the help of you guys here and I never left. Only switched gpu's a few times 🤓

I'm glad Intel is pushing forwards, but software is so far behind hardware it doesn't really matter.

Haswell refresh is still on 22nm and both should be compatible with z87. Intel Rep/Ceo said this once in one video Haswell vs Broadwell power faceoff: "You can plug it in into existing systems or brand new systems and with broad range of fanless designs." http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KeDtXucTwRI#t=23

I'm pretty sure I read an article from AnandTech or X-bit Labs that said Broadwell will be using the 9 series chipset. So either way, we will be required to upgrade to a new motherboard if we want to use the full potential of that CPU.

I don't know, for me ever since i7 920 it feels like the performance gain to 2600K, 3770K, 4770K is no big deal compared to how big performance gains were in the past from one generation to another. The only thing I noticed when I went from 920 to 3770K was that my max stable OC on the first was 4.2 while on the new on 4.8 (even though I'm with it at 4.2 now to tame my electric bill a bit lol) and that it has PCI-e 3.0 and UEFI, which is nice if you have multi GPU setup. It's pretty clear to me that the future lies in multicore, there will always be slight performance gains per core with each generation but we will see big gains when we will have 8, 12, 16 etc. cores and of course aplications that make use of them rather than per clock performance.

That's why it's important for AMD to be competitive, Intel has no incentive currently to improve their performance CPU's to any great extent.

I wish i had a Like button, that's the truth fact. Competition is one of the factors that drives this industry forward 🙂

I'm pretty sure I read an article from AnandTech or X-bit Labs that said Broadwell will be using the 9 series chipset. So either way, we will be required to upgrade to a new motherboard if we want to use the full potential of that CPU.

I've read that too and none was confirmed by intel.. First rumor started in China and then all copy-pasta that info. Of course intel will put new chipsets, its intel doh. But I bet it will still be compatible just like z68 is with IB. OC'ing shouldn't be a issue, i didn't see any with z68 and IB. Ok apart from missing few parts like, rapid start, smart connect, etc.. Irrelevant gimmicks anyway If its not compatible then not a big deal, im happy with this 4770k @ 4.7ghz has enough power for 3-4years+ 🙂

I don't know, for me ever since i7 920 it feels like the performance gain to 2600K, 3770K, 4770K is no big deal compared to how big performance gains were in the past from one generation to another. It's pretty clear to me that the future lies in multicore, there will always be slight performance gains per core with each generation but we will see big gains when we will have 8, 12, 16 etc. cores and of course applications that make use of them rather than per clock performance.

Your above post is completely true the biggest performance jump for Intel started with their socket LGA 775 core 2 duo dual + quad core cpu's, after that the LGA 1366 core i7 cpu line and lastly i will put to the list LGA 1155 Sandy Bridge core i7 2600k + 2700k. Mostly for their great overclocking potential, especially the cherry picked 2700k chips which can easily do 5ghz (if you have a good sample). With relatively low voltage and with great temps without reaching the danger zone which i consider 1.4v to be maximum safe voltage for 24/7 use with temps below 75c. (I got lucky with my 2700k and can do 5ghz with 1.38v no HT with very good temps for 24/7 use but in winter only with a H100.) But generally speaking the truth is that an LGA 1366 core i7 is still a very strong cpu and as you stated the performance gains to 2600K, 3770K, 4770K are quite small.

That's why it's important for AMD to be competitive, Intel has no incentive currently to improve their performance CPU's to any great extent.

Yep spot on without any competitive AMD desktop cpu's, Intel has no reason to make big jumps in performance anymore.

Some extra new info about Haswell Refresh and Haswell in general @ ISSCC 2014 http://www.anandtech.com/show/7744/intel-reveals-new-haswell-details-at-isscc-2014

Sandy Bridge is a golden bridge. there is no worthy upgrade over it at all, maybe intel next next gen, they made Sandy bridge godlike cpus.

Sandy Bridge is a golden bridge. there is no worthy upgrade over it at all, maybe intel next next gen, they made Sandy bridge godlike cpus.

really wish I had waited for one...and I didnt get a k. Still you learn by your mistakes. (plus my current chip isnt a complete lemon).

Not at all interested tbh. I think my upgrade path will be as usual, skip the next chipset.

Heh, even a OC'ed 2600K still stacks up nicely. Think I'll wait till DDR4 arrives.

hmm...

Both Haswell-Refresh and Broadwell will use a different LGA1150 socket variant. (Physically unchanged, but electrically different to current LGA1150...Intel has changed the electrical specifications! Effectively killing compatibility between current Haswell, and upcoming Haswell-Refresh/Broadwell processors!)

Lame but no surprise there, when AMD will get their stuff sorted out in the CPU market like they did in the GPU market, things like these will happen less (hopefully).

hmm...

Where did you read that at?

Sandy Bridge is a golden bridge. there is no worthy upgrade over it at all, maybe intel next next gen, they made Sandy bridge godlike cpus.

Skylake would probably be the next best upgrade.

Sandy Bridge is a golden bridge. there is no worthy upgrade over it at all, maybe intel next next gen, they made Sandy bridge godlike cpus.

Totally agree on that moab600. I am so glad i made the right choice when i upgraded from my aging socket 775 quad platform. I was long overdue for an upgrade and when Sandy Bridge first got released i was very excited with its performance, especially at the very high overclocks of (4.8-5ghz) it could achieve. Since then i had my eyes set on a core i7 2600k upgrade, reading endless posts of Sandy Bridge owners day after day here on Guru3d. When i had finally saved up the money for my upgrade, i was about to buy a Z68 Mobo with a i7 2600K cpu. Ivy Bridge and the Z77 chipset at the time was due to be released in about 3 months so i decided to be a bit patient and wait. I was expecting that Intels new cpu would further improve in every department that made Sandy Bridge such a huge success, with a bonus of PCIexpress 3.0 and 4 native intel usb 3 ports. In the meantime rumors started spreading the web with early benchmarks of Ivy Bridge and how hot it runs in overclocked conditions. As time passed and Ivy Bridge was nearing it's release date, the rumors of very high temps turned out to be true. I was really disappointed at that sad fact that my dream of having a 5ghz overclocked cpu with PCIexpress 3.0. was going down the drain. At the last minute i decided to ditch Ivy bridge along with PCIexpress 3.0 and i got my self an Asus P8Z77 Deluxe along with a core i7 2700k cpu and i couldn't be happier with my choice,as i know i would of been disappointed if i got an i7 3770k.