do they have proof of this ? usually there is a sales report thingy with a statement like this.

Marketing bs. I bet they sold more or less the same what they sold with previous generations.

intel news is boring to me lately waiting for more skylake-e leak well most people use smartphone/tablet for daily use not many people buying desktop pc nowdays, as notebook somehow good enough for those user... plus its portability, can use it anywhere we want nowdays mostly only gamer still buying desktop

Better save money on proper GPU I guess.

It's just all of those 2500/2600K users hopping on the 6600/6700K bandwagon 😛 I hopped on the 5820K bandwagon though 😀

It's just all of those 2500/2600K users hopping on the 6600/6700K bandwagon 😛 I hopped on the 5820K bandwagon though 😀

Welcome to the club! If the market stays the way it was in the last few years, and no z0MG super performance wonder CPU platform comes out (slimmmm chances) we'll be on X99 for at least another 3 years. :P

As a direct result the average direct sales price of these SKUs went up by a good 17% compared to 2014.

This is why we really need AMD to succeed with Zen as soon as possible. It's disgusting how Intel can get away with their absurd prices simply because there's no competition.

I hopped on the 5820K bandwagon though 😀

Welcome to the club! If the market stays the way it was in the last few years, and no z0MG super performance wonder CPU platform comes out (slimmmm chances) we'll be on X99 for at least another 3 years. :P

same boat bro:cheers: will upgrade with "E" procie & "X" chipset,still keep 4930K+RIVBE(sometime power up with it:)):rock:

This is why we really need AMD to succeed with Zen as soon as possible. It's disgusting how Intel can get away with their absurd prices simply because there's no competition.

agree bro:thumbup: give us more choice ammo & COMPETITIVE PRICE:vader: never had AMD RIG btw:smile:

I've had AMD rigs in the past, though atm there's not much point to it if you want performance over price. I do hope they can trade a few blows at the very least with Zen, otherwise Intel will basically become unstoppable.

This is why we really need AMD to succeed with Zen as soon as possible. It's disgusting how Intel can get away with their absurd prices simply because there's no competition.

To be fair to Intel the transistor count of Skylake is also 20% more than Haswell/Ivy (which were the same count) and as they drive the process node down the cost per transistor is starting to increase. I mean there are definitely areas where Intel is overcharging like crazy. Core-M's are like $250 each and they are 5w processors. But I think Intel's pricing on the top K models is kind of fair.

Just like for years the "PC gaming Software sales" estimates never included Steam or GOG sales, etc., and so really were never a reliable indicator of much of anything, so it is with the quarterly PC sales estimates that do not reflect the number of people upgrading their present machines with all kinds of new hardware--from the motherboards up. Estimates are somewhere north of 20M-30M "new" machines a year are created by individuals, corporations, and small computer shops globally. The PC is exceptionally easy to upgrade--I haven't bought a new OEM machine since 1995, for instance--but I have a "new" machine every couple of years or so just the same. I've seen some estimates as high as 50M a year for this category that are never counted. Makes a lot of sense--Amazon, for instance, has a huge selection of PC components for sale individually. That would not be the case if the individual components were not selling well. What Intel says therefore is entirely possible--no question about it. It's usually the less knowledgeable among us who are more inclined to buy OEM (especially Apple products)--and each year the pool of people who can build their own boxes gets larger as more people accumulate the sufficient experience and desire to do so. It's exceptionally simple to build your own box today--easier than it has ever been, in fact. No question but that the PC sales estimates are off by a substantial amount on the low side.

It's just all of those 2500/2600K users hopping on the 6600/6700K bandwagon 😛 I hopped on the 5820K bandwagon though 😀

:thumbup:

It's because of the increase in cost, tanking cad dollar and very little need to upgrade I think I'll be on this 3770k for a long time still. Right now it's about 660$ just for the 6700k delivered I got my 3770k for about 390$ delivered

To be fair to Intel the transistor count of Skylake is also 20% more than Haswell/Ivy (which were the same count) and as they drive the process node down the cost per transistor is starting to increase.

Semi-conductors aren't my area of expertise, but it seems strange to me the transistors would need to costs just as much and thus the more you put then, the more it costs linearly. If it was like that, a CPU would cost now as much as an aircraft carrier considering how it all started. The difficulties with physics are accumulating with the tiny nodes, so in that sense lessening gains are natural and rising costs seem plausible from now on. But from Ivy to Skylake that wasn't the case yet. Inflation hasn't been bad either. It's just Intel maximising profits since people haven't got a choice. Looking at the prime number fiasco, Intel didn't even bother to be super careful here, despite the fact the company's richer than lots of countries in the world.

Here in Ottawa Canada, wanted to buy a 6700k for my son in law and none were available also CANADACOMPUTERS had over 127 paid orders for 6700k and 40+ for 6600k so its been difficult to get our hands on one!

I'm still plugging away on my X58 980x http://www.cartoonnetwork.ca/tv/uncle-grandpa/images/uncle-grandpa-character-uncle.png

It's just all of those 2500/2600K users hopping on the 6600/6700K bandwagon 😛 I hopped on the 5820K bandwagon though 😀

Nevah!

sata 3 is more tempting than another ~10% random IPC increase in synthetic benchs

Semi-conductors aren't my area of expertise, but it seems strange to me the transistors would need to costs just as much and thus the more you put then, the more it costs linearly. If it was like that, a CPU would cost now as much as an aircraft carrier considering how it all started. The difficulties with physics are accumulating with the tiny nodes, so in that sense lessening gains are natural and rising costs seem plausible from now on. But from Ivy to Skylake that wasn't the case yet. Inflation hasn't been bad either. It's just Intel maximising profits since people haven't got a choice. Looking at the prime number fiasco, Intel didn't even bother to be super careful here, despite the fact the company's richer than lots of countries in the world.

Why isn't that the case from Ivy to Skylake? Skylake is 14nm, Ivy is 22nm. The R&D cost for developing node shrinks is increasing significantly as engineers are running into theoretical physics problems that simply haven't been solved yet. You can't just throw money at the issue and make it go away. Intel is already doing that and yet they are still delaying node shrinks because they can't solve it. Intel has doubled it's R&D spending in the last 5 years. And I said the price is starting to increase, it hasn't always increased. For example the average gate cost for from 90nm to 65nm went from $.04 per million gates to $.02 per million gates -- a substantial decrease. But from 20nm to 16nmFF, the cost went from $.014 to $.016 a small increase. TSMC is already predicting that it's 10nm node will be even more expensive. I'm sure Intel is seeing the same on it's own processes. Also the Prime number thing is nothing new. It's a chip with a billion gates -- stuff goes wrong, even when you have the best validation on the planet. Processors have errata, it just happens. You do your best to correct it all during design but sometimes you can't. In this case Intel has a fix, so I don't see why people are making a big deal out of it. Ivybridge had 100+ errata flaws, no one cared about those. As far as the price, its probably a bit of both. Cost increasing on chip design & lack of competition. But it's not solely lack of competition.

Still on a 2500K and see no reason to upgrade :-P My "upgrade" was a €70 cooler and a 4.2GHz OC.