^ that's good news especially with Asus leading the way. It'll be interesting to see how they overclock (versus previous Haswell CPUs) with improved thermal properties. May even consider an upgrade later on if these are nice overclockers, my current i5 is awful in that respect.

Tbh why would you reuse the same mobo? The new features are more exciting than the CPU at this point...

Tbh why would you reuse the same mobo? The new features are more exciting than the CPU at this point...

and those are which ones.. m.sata? thats about it, and majority wont spend money on those sdds

I meant that if I were to upgrade my CPU with my current mobo, I may consider one of these. And that's a big if, probably will skip this and do a total overhaul by the time my current spec can't handle it anymore. I got a 6 year run with my previous Core 2 build and I hope to extract the same from my current build. Completed games like Hitman:Absolution, Bioshock Infinite and Deus Ex:HR with my old rig. Highish settings at 1080p. Granted, it wasn't a rock-solid 60 fps experience but very playable nevertheless (now I'm replaying them with maxed settings at a rock solid 60 fps 😉

Sir the ASUS CPU Support list link is messed up it got www guru3d com in front of the actual address

and those are which ones.. m.sata? thats about it, and majority wont spend money on those sdds

I have the following motherboard. Msi z87-g45 gaming. i have no cpu yet as I got this as free gift from MSI. So how would i upgrade my bios without cpu installed. But this is still good news. Now i don't have to buy a new motherboard to or get haswell refresh non K cpu

I have the following motherboard. Msi z87-g45 gaming. i have no cpu yet as I got this as free gift from MSI. So how would i upgrade my bios without cpu installed. But this is still good news. Now i don't have to buy a new motherboard to or get haswell refresh non K cpu

easy , just borrow any Haswell cpu from a a friend , flash your motherboard when the new Bios supporting Devil's Canyon and Pentium edition cpus is posted at MSI bios download page for your motherboard , you are done 🙂. Or you can send your MSI motherboard when the time is right to a friend of yours with a Haswell cpu and get it flashed by them for you.

I have the following motherboard. Msi z87-g45 gaming. i have no cpu yet as I got this as free gift from MSI. So how would i upgrade my bios without cpu installed. But this is still good news. Now i don't have to buy a new motherboard to or get haswell refresh non K cpu

I don't know about MSI but ASUS supports flashing via USB on a special port. Does MSI also do the same?

^ yeah by MSI its called M-flash And I bet Broadwell will be Z87 compatible as well, *this intel CEO knows it all (IDF 2013, September 12th), *Kirk Skaugen, senior vice president and general manager of the PC Client Group at Intel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KeDtXucTwRI#t=23 they will all say its not until the end, just like now with DC, then baam out of nowhere Z87 can use it too 🤓

^ even better if that turns out to be true! Besides I think it's complete nonsense that nowadays we basically have a chipset / socket per CPU generation. I'm convinced there isn't any real technical limitation behind this, just a marketing thing. Granted, newer chipsets have more and better features in them and enable to make full use of new CPUs, but still some backwards compatibility can surely be maintained.

Intel Devils Canyon Official Support Motherboard list. Listed MSI,GIGABYTE,ECS,BIOSTAR,ASUS,ASRock 8 series motherbords. http://processormatch.intel.com/MotherBoards/CompatibleBoards?componentName=I5-4690K http://processormatch.intel.com/MotherBoards/CompatibleBoards?componentName=I7-4790K

^ that's good news especially with Asus leading the way. It'll be interesting to see how they overclock (versus previous Haswell CPUs) with improved thermal properties. May even consider an upgrade later on if these are nice overclockers, my current i5 is awful in that respect.

You can easily fix the problem, all you have to do is get rid of the gap between the IHS and the CPU core itself. I used the "hammer + Vise" method of popping off the heat spreader, then lapped the lip of the underside where it is glued to the processor. After making that adjustment so the IHS and core just barely touch, add a thin coat of CooLaboratories Liquid Metal Ultra, then set the chip without IHS into the CPU socket, add a tiny bead of high temp adhesive (liquid gasket actually works well AND it makes it easy to remove in the future. Then line up the heat spreader, set it on the chip, and clamp the two parts down together and adjust if necessary. On my i5-4670K my idle temps dropped from ~40'c (4ghz) to ~29'c (4.2ghz), and the peak temps which @ 4ghz used to hit 90'c, are now peaking at ~60'c @ 4.2ghz. Most games it barely passes 50'c. When doing the IHS removal, make sure NOT to clamp down the heat spreader too tightly because it is soft metal and may require lapping if it gets marred up. This method I first tested on an old Pentium 4 i had laying around. Make sure the wood board you use is not pine. Pine is too soft and the side of the chip can actually cut into the wood, damaging parts on the chip. I used a piece of maple which is incredibly hard and does a great job of transferring the hammer hit's force to the chip. This method in my opinion is FAR safer than the old "razor blade + praying to god" method of cutting the adhesive that holds the IHS to the chip. one slight slip and you'll cut through the chips surface and damage tiny traces.

MSI Japan Announces Response to Devil's Canyon in Intel 8 series motherboards. http://jp.msi.com/news/100115.html ASRock Devil's Canyon Support List 4790K:http://www.asrock.com/support/cpu.asp?s=1150&u=759 4690K:http://www.asrock.com/support/cpu.asp?s=1150&u=760 H81,H87,B85,Z87 supported.

Intel Devils Canyon Official Support Motherboard list. Listed MSI,GIGABYTE,ECS,BIOSTAR,ASUS,ASRock 8 series motherbords.

Using the links in your post I see no 8 series chipset listed.

Using the links in your post I see no 8 series chipset listed.

I was confirmed. From the list, Intel 8 series are erased. GIGABYTE CPU Support List Update. Z87 list http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?v=AE72F6F9D4ADD0D77CCC3AC25EF622EA8C94E35913632AE344D56E90E11929B1&s=Intel%20Socket%201150&cs=Intel%20Z87 H87 list http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?v=AE72F6F9D4ADD0D77CCC3AC25EF622EA4D3A1F09993BDC9EBCAD412F6E945F4D&s=Intel%20Socket%201150&cs=Intel%20H87 B85 list http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?v=AE72F6F9D4ADD0D77CCC3AC25EF622EA82C2CCC1C8C4258583D58325359DC34E&s=Intel%20Socket%201150&cs=Intel%20B85 H81 list http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?v=AE72F6F9D4ADD0D77CCC3AC25EF622EA5E2FBF7961BBE78C0E70E5177A843D26&s=Intel%20Socket%201150&cs=Intel%20H81

According to the Gigabyte site, my board got support for them in the bios update they released back in January.

Kinda negates the whole point of Z97 really though doesn't it, aside from SATA-Express...

I can safely report that ASRock Z87 OC Formula and Z87-M OC Formula supports Devil's Canyon since the last bios update 1.90 , it has been tested already by some of my friends and it does work for Devil's c Canyon and Pentium K edition 🙂 , directly from ASRock download page/website Latest Bios Version 1.90 " 1. Support New 4th Generation Intel Core Processors. 2. Update Intel ME. 3. Hide Intel Turbo Boost Technology if CPU does not support this feature. 4. Update CPU code. " I agree 100% with BLEH! Z97 is not an upgrade for the guys with Z87 motherboards already , sata-express and M2 is not enough for anyone to upgrade to Z97 , LOL greedy Intel ...