Intel 'degrades' Apollo Lake processor degradation issues - Continues to Supply B1 stepping again
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SetsunaFZero
Intel is literally selling garbage to their customers o_O
Fox2232
Ship me 5 of them for price of one and maybe then I'll be willing to consider them in product since I'll already have spare chips as they do what they are expected to do.
Gomez Addams
This always annoys me. After this long I should be used to it but I'm not. What is being called a stepping here is most likely NOT really one. It is the process revision. Intel nearly always uses a letter-number combination for the revision. The stepping is nearly always just a number. For example, on the i9 9900X I have the stepping is 4 and the revision M0. Another machine I have is a i7 3820 and it is on stepping 7, revision C2. My laptop is an i7 6700HQ and it is stepping 3, revision R0. These values are reported by CPU-Z. Revision and stepping are two different things. A new stepping usually means a new revision also but a new revision is not necessarily a new stepping. Stepping refers to the set of masks used by the lithography machines or the "steppers". A process revision encompasses all aspects of the fabrication process. There are around a hundred steps to process chips on a wafer and changing any of them constitutes a revision. Masks are rarely revised because it is a very expensive process, costing in the millions, which is why these chips have had so few of them.
Again, refer to CPU-Z. It displays the stepping and revision and you can see that :
1) they are separate values,
2) the stepping is not in letter+number format - that is the revision, and
3) the stepping is just a number.
Turanis
And nobody talking about this:
Weakness in Intel chips lets researchers steal encrypted SSH keystrokes
Intel Data-Direct I/O makes servers faster. It can also allow rogue servers to covertly steal data.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/weakness-in-intel-chips-lets-researchers-steal-encrypted-ssh-keystrokes/
Now, researchers are warning that, in certain scenarios, attackers can abuse DDIO to obtain keystrokes and possibly other types of sensitive data that flow through the memory of vulnerable servers. The most serious form of attack can take place in data centers and cloud environments that have both DDIO and remote direct memory access enabled to allow servers to exchange data. A server leased by a malicious hacker could abuse the vulnerability to attack other customers. To prove their point, the researchers devised an attack that allows a server to steal keystrokes typed into the protected SSH (or secure shell session) established between another server and an application server.
Buuut,i9-9900K have integrated ze Data-Direct I/O support:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i9-processors/i9-9900k.html
anticupidon
Last year I bought the AsRock J355B ITX with the intention of building my own NAS and a pFsense router.
Well, that project somehow never realised fully, because of strange lockups and system freeze out of the blue.
Looks like I won the bad lottery with those boards.
D3M1G0D
Evildead666
I have one of these set up as a router (J3355)
Yeah, I got one of those for a PfSense router as well....
I did get it working OK, mostly just to test PfSense.
Was just about to get it back running again when I read this...
Fox2232
D3M1G0D
HeavyHemi
'In the revised notification, Intel appears to be making a clear distinction between the two most common use-cases for the parts: 'PC Usage' covers installation in low-end desktops, laptops, tablets and the like, which typically have a short design life before being replaced with a hardware refresh and which spend only part of their life actually powered on; the company's IOT Group, however, sells the same parts for Internet of Things embedded use in hardware which may have a decade-plus shelf life and run 24/7 - meaning it will meet whatever conditions trigger the degradation issue considerably more quickly than in the 'PC Usage' scenario.'
Just sayin...while you might not agree with the binning or the sequence of events, they are two entirely different operating paradigms and use cases and would have different standards. No scandal, sorry.
Kool64
they don't make em like they used to 🙄
Evildead666
Geek
Strange that a RUMOR about AMD Zen chips degrading spreads like wildfire. Yet an actual release from a manufacturer stating that their product has issues with degradation, goes largely unnoticed.