How much more power for that 3% ?

A 13900K scores 945 single-core running 2 cores at 5.8 GHz (CPU-Z sc test uses two cores). So that's a 3.5% increase. My undervolted 13900K does that at about 1.35 V, so 1.385 V for 6.0 GHz on the 14900K seems quite ok for the performance increase.

The difference between 7950X and intel 12900k,13900k,14900k slowly rise.... I feel THE ITCH to upgrade - I have the 5950X for too long now - that 14900k looks better than 7950X - idle power consumption is lower for 14900k (same e - cores as 13900k that has very low idle power consumption) and both are space heaters at full power - no difference here between amd and intel at top, better memory support for Intel (heard that AMD had that fixed with latest bioses), intel actual platform is EOL but I really don't care about that....hmmm... plus the smell of new hardware - like the smell of new car.

barbacot:

The difference between 7950X and intel 12900k,13900k,14900k slowly rise.... I feel THE ITCH to upgrade - I have the 5950X for too long now - that 14900k looks better than 7950X - idle power consumption is lower for 14900k (same e - cores as 13900k that has very low idle power consumption) and both are space heaters at full power - no difference here between amd and intel at top, better memory support for Intel (heard that AMD had that fixed with latest bioses), intel actual platform is EOL but I really don't care about that....hmmm... plus the smell of new hardware - like the smell of new car.

Same boat but on a 5900x. I want those single thread increases.. But im willing to wait until next Intel\AMD release. The gains by then will be well worth it. For now the games I play the 5900x is doing fairly well undervolted.

barbacot:

The difference between 7950X and intel 12900k,13900k,14900k slowly rise.... I feel THE ITCH to upgrade - I have the 5950X for too long now - that 14900k looks better than 7950X - idle power consumption is lower for 14900k (same e - cores as 13900k that has very low idle power consumption) and both are space heaters at full power - no difference here between amd and intel at top, better memory support for Intel (heard that AMD had that fixed with latest bioses), intel actual platform is EOL but I really don't care about that....hmmm... plus the smell of new hardware - like the smell of new car.

Also option to wait for that 8xxx series of AMD and see how AMD answers.

Ryu5uzaku:

Also option to wait for that 8xxx series of AMD and see how AMD answers.

AMD 8000 will compete with 15gen this is nothing but a refresh.

According to the published CPU-Z scores the 14900K should do 5.9 or 6.0 GHz all-core if IPC are the same. It's 8.5% faster than a 13900K at 5.5 GHz all-core. Could also be based on higher E core clocks, though. So we will see when it's released to market.

Would like to see performance results with an all core overclock without burning a hole in the motherboard. https://media0.giphy.com/media/dbtDDSvWErdf2/200w.gif?cid=ecf05e477veimyblsvpx0fujlhitaqnm77cuocvuqob3fkhd&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

mattm4:

Same boat but on a 5900x. I want those single thread increases.. But im willing to wait until next Intel\AMD release. The gains by then will be well worth it. For now the games I play the 5900x is doing fairly well undervolted.

For me I've got a 5800X and I'm planning to wait til either Intel 15th gen or Zen 5. I like to upgrade ideally on years where we see an architecture overhaul. It's nutty how modern PC gaming has gotten where the CPU and fast memory is so crucial to consistent smooth performance. It seems like we need dedicated hardware for moving data around/decompressing it rather than just dumping that workload onto the CPU (so, basically it seems like we need what PS5 has given it has hardware purpose built for that function). DirectStorage is supposed to help with this, but Digital Foundry in their video said I recall that Ratchet and Clank actually uses both the GPU and CPU to move data around so still quite a different approach to what the consoles (and I think some data center hardware?) is doing. I am just very weary of dealing with streaming/traversal stutter in so many games for years now. The weird thing is some games are very high detail/quite complex and don't have this problem like post patch Cyberpunk/Red Dead 2 so it seems it can be solved even with hardware of today, but many UE games stutter like mad when you hit a streaming trigger. Drives me up a wall lol

Yep, I'm waiting for next gen. Disappointed it won't be this year, but we've known that for a while now. Definitely going to upgrade, the gap is widening.

NewTRUMP Order:

Would like to see performance results with an all core overclock without burning a hole in the motherboard. https://media0.giphy.com/media/dbtDDSvWErdf2/200w.gif?cid=ecf05e477veimyblsvpx0fujlhitaqnm77cuocvuqob3fkhd&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

Why? What does this CPU need overclocking for and what do you hope to achieve that real generational improvements won't render moot?

Timur Born:

Why? What does this CPU need overclocking for and what do you hope to achieve that real generational improvements won't render moot?

I don't think it is such an outrageous thought to wonder what kind of performance a new cpu has over the prior cpu. I don't mean to burst your bubble but people all over the world overclock even the new-fangled cpu's.

kapu:

How much more power for that 3% ?

+90%? :V

NewTRUMP Order:

I don't think it is such an outrageous thought to wonder what kind of performance a new cpu has over the prior cpu. I don't mean to burst your bubble but people all over the world overclock even the new-fangled cpu's.

No bubble here. I know that people push 50% more power for 5% more *peak* performance (hardly noticeable in realworld apps) out of a CPU that already uses 50% for 20% more performance at stock. That nice for fun and highscores.