Intel Comet Lake surfaces in Linux drivers - Intel going for 10 cores for desktop procs
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mohiuddin
So a 10core 14++ nm core will be up against 16core 7nm behemoth.
Wouldnt it be wise to ditch iGPU for high end cpus in this line up to accomodate some extra cores ? I mean who in their right mind would buy a 10+ cores cpu with a view to use it with iGPU anyway?
sverek
14nm+++++? I lost count.
(BroadWell)
+ (Sky Lake)
++ (Kaby Lake)
+++ (Coffee Lake)
++++ (Coffee Lake+ (9900K))
+++++ (Comet Lake)
HardwareCaps
well the vast majority of people don't need more than 8 cores tbh...
the key question will be pricing and single threaded performance
cryohellinc
And this stuff will be HOT.
user1
The silicon will be used for a variety of products, from mobile to desktop, plus there are plenty of people that don't need a discrete gpu, and just need something to connect a monitor to, and maybe provide some desktop acceleration.
Kaarme
The CPU with 10 cores must cost like 700 euros with Intel's current pricing scheme. Super competitive.
HardwareCaps
True, but I assume whoever is going to get a 10 core beast like that will likely have the money for liquid cooling
Hyderz
hehe i think intel and amd should slow down on the core count... focus on the power, heat and maybe.. just maybe we will see a 6ghz out of the box from either company
Kaarme
Core count helps with power and heat. Just look at phones: 8 cores isn't anything extraordinary even in relatively cheaper models, and they operate with very little energy. The problem in PCs is that Intel's refusal to give mainstream more cores for a decade (and AMD being out of competition) meant that a major portion of the software didn't really use multiple cores, because people didn't have multiple cores in their systems (the programs had to run on everything from only 2 cores and up). Of course any serious software for productivity could use all cores available (within reason) from ages ago, but that wasn't something so essential for 99% of regular home users. After that decade long drought of little to zero development, we are now suddenly taking the steps that should have happened already gradually during that decade. That's why the core race seems so crazy. But if this had happened slowly during 10 years, you would pay no attention whatsoever to it.
mohiuddin
Hey buddy u just proved my point. That "plenty of people " arent gonna be customer of this processor.
So, yes i still think an iGpu in a 10core cpu is a waste of die space to its user for most cases
"The majority of people" logic doesn't apply here mate. Because these decacore or 16core cpus are for that minority of the people who's gonna need that threaded performance.
Undying
So this is how Intel fights with AMD 7nm Zen2? Hah.
Lino69
And it will probably be priced similar to AMD's 16 cores counterpart
I'm really glad that Intel's decade of wasted time is coming to bite them in the ass, they had no competition back then and instead of working on better architecture and add more cores they went ahead and gave us basically the same Cpu's with the same core count for 10 years, with some very small refinements here and there
I'l never buy and support a lazy and greedy company like Intel ever again
Embra
Another 9900k. Expensive, hot and most importantly ...... not many to sell.
Intel banks on maintaining the title of "king" of speed, and it works for the most part.
HardwareCaps
Exactly, this is why I said, what matters for their next gen is pricing and single threaded performance.
UnrealGaming
Intel in 2019 https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/twitter/180/sleeping-face_1f634.png
NewTRUMP Order
Just change the name to what it should be for Intel cpu's as of late. Muddy Lake. Intel can't get out of it's own way to make 10nm wafers. And all this Muddy Lake problems will be passed on to you the consumer. The old magician trick of misdirection with rebranded cpu's and look 10 cores over here, is getting old.
JamesSneed
The 9900k already runs damn hot pulling over 200 watts at stock clocks, so this CPU is going to be fun to cool. I have a feeling when AMD lands Zen2 intel will sell virtually zero of these 10 core chips. AMD should be really close in IPC, have a more efficient CPU partly due to 7nm and have more cores. Until 2020 when Intel moves to 10nm+ AMD should own the desktop market. Plus Intel is having a hard time making enough CPU's so this summer AMD will lend them a helping hand with that issue.
Petr V
Too many ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
Petr V
Intel is dead.
nizzen
...and pigs can fly...
