Intel Arc A380 Performs Pretty Bad with AMD CPUs
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Kaarme
If this is on purpose, I can't see it as a good decision. Intel discrete GPUs aren't in a strong position (actually in no position for the time being), so Intel should do everything within their power to make sure they are as attractive to every single customer as possible. Although if Intel plans to have them found only inside prebuilt OEM PCs, it doesn't matter so much. It's a foregone conclusion the OEMs would get better deals with both the CPU and GPU from Intel. However, with potential customers with an existing PC they are otherwise happy with but only want to upgrade the graphics card, this would be a bad game plan. You never know, but I guess this is just one sign of the Intel drivers being in a bad shape, which would be one more reason for the repeated postponement of the release. If Intel can't get the drivers up to the expected functionality on their own Intel PCs, getting them there on AMD PCs would be a secondary priority.
Undying
Intel making all the wrong choices when it comes to Arc. This is going downhill very rapidly.
asturur
I don't think is on purpose.
But i bet that the priority assignment to amd related optimization will be always low.
Also isn't 1-10% the generic edge higher speed clocked intels have on amd?
asturur
Also without knowing how the gtx1650 is doing on both cpu seems pointless.
Undying
Its doing the same on both.
Kaarme
It's an entry level graphics card. A toaster could run it at 100%. It shouldn't be CPU bottlenecked, aside from the driver side, unless something is seriously wrong about it. If it's somehow incompatible with AMD hardware wise, then it's certainly a questionable and risky decision from Intel, who is trying to enter the market from no previous position whatsoever.
fantaskarsef
I would have never, never expected that.
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schmidtbag
Considering all the delays, Intel is likely very far behind in terms of optimization. They likely have only been optimizing on their own platforms first. It would be absurd if they chose to let it perform worse on AMD, since anyone who isn't an Intel shill would see right through that and know that the CPU is not the problem.
Dimitrios1983
Is this caused by Microsoft? There was an article sometime back with Windows 11 issues with AMD. There was discussions about some shenanigan's with Microsoft & Intel against AMD.The great thing about history news is that it can show a pattern as time goes on. History is a great puzzle to questions. Sometimes it's meaning less sometimes not. Sorry for this odd crazy ramble.
Embra
This would be a mistake on Intel's part if they do not try and fix it.
I would not buy a GPU that did not run ~equally well on either cpu platform.
sykozis
I ran across an article the other day that said the Arc A-series requires Resizable BAR to function "optimally" and that it would only be compatible with Intel 10th, 11th and 12th Gen Core processors......
Undying
Zen2 and zen3 do support resizable bar.
sykozis
Yes, they do.....but they're still not Intel 10th, 11th or 12th Gen Core processors....
xg-ei8ht
In games, what are the main things that cause slowdown.
Rez
AA - Although many versions do a good job of image quality with little performance drain.
Shadows
Particles
Full lighting as opposed to baked in.
Were I a company doing R&D, I would look at these area's to see what gains I could make for a small cost.
I'm not a programmer, so obviously the Software side of things, engines, tools for performance delta's matter.
AMD has it's FSR 2.0 to help with performance. But cannot match DLSS in quality and performance.
Then we have the materials themselves, Size of GPU, power Consumption, cost etc.
I'm surprised TV'S, Monitors don't come with a Built in AA Solution. Nvidia could do a DLSS monitor.lol.
GamerNerves
This is likely just because they do all the driver development on their own processors, so nothing to worry about. Since there is a title where AMD CPU offered the better result, it already tells that this behavior is not on purpose. They have yet many bigger problems to deal with before focusing on the best possible performance on different hardware configurations.
barbacot
I really don't think that it is on purpose...more like an optimization problem for other platform like schmidtbag said.
Come on guys give them some room to breathe because we need a third player on this market and Intel is the only one with enough funds and research capabilities to go against red and green.
Funny how it would be...RegGreenBlue - RGB...
We need the third dragon but without the funny eyes!
https://i.imgur.com/ArGf3xk.png
schmidtbag
I don't see why resizable BAR would be limited to just those. Nvidia's GPUs don't have rBAR issues on AMD or Intel platforms, and AMD's GPUs get rBAR support on Intel. So, why would Intel's GPUs not get rBAR support on AMD?
Perhaps you're right that [for now] rBAR is only functional on Intel-Intel systems. But if this is a conscious decision, Intel would be shooting themselves in the foot, especially if the GPU is released this way, and even moreso if Intel tells reviewers to only test on Intel's CPU platforms.
sykozis
You're misreading what I said, just as Undying did. According to Intel's own documentation, the Arc A-series requires ReBAR be enabled to function "optimally" AND it would only be compatible with Intel 10th, 11th and 12th gen Core processors.
That's 2 different requirements.
The Arc A-series requires ReBAR be enabled to function "optimally"
The Arc A-series is only (officially) compatible with Intel 10th, 11th and 12th gen Core Processors.....
The Arc A-series functioning on AMD platforms is not by intent.....
