4% Single core and 10% multicore Improvement over the K model. For how much more money? I see the 13900k has dropped 10% in price here in the U.S..
The top SKUs are never worth it for the average consumer. It's just a way of the makers to squeeze more money out of a product.
And if you can afford it, why not? I still have an i5 2500K on my mom PC. But after that one, I buy the more economical options (Ryzen 2600 and now 3600).
That and TDP: no way I'm gonna run something at 150W if at 65W I can have 90% the performance.
You haven't used a cpu before I see 😀
With v-drop and LLC3, the load voltage is not that high 🙂
Volt doesn't kill hardware or get the cpu hot.... Ampere does 😉
Volt doesn't kill hardware or get the cpu hot.... Ampere does 😉
So when I undervolt my GPU and it runs cooler it's because of magic.
Hardware have limits and you can't tweek Amps, but you can tweek volts. Both are related.
So when I undervolt my GPU and it runs cooler it's because of magic.
Hardware have limits and you can't tweek Amps, but you can tweek volts. Both are related.
I remember the good time when CPU and GPU can handle running over 100°c over long period and time (Intel Pentium D extreme + NVidia GTX2*0 1st gen as an exemple, as the motherboard die before both of them lol)...
Undervolt can kill GPU the same way than overvoltage, the only change is that with overvoltage it may die by high temperature too.
Also you can hardware mod to tweak Amp for extreme condition or breaking record despite it is less done on actual products.
In fact, both of you are right...
You haven't used a cpu before I see 😀
With v-drop and LLC3, the load voltage is not that high 🙂
Volt doesn't kill hardware or get the cpu hot.... Ampere does 😉
You haven't used a cpu before I see 😀
With v-drop and LLC3, the load voltage is not that high 🙂
Volt doesn't kill hardware or get the cpu hot.... Ampere does 😉
I think what he meant is the same thing I tried to explain about the 3090 burning out (which happened to me)
(V x A)=W
it's not watts that burn components nor voltage since for example on a gpu it's fixed at 12V it's the amperes A that go up..a lot and have giant spikes on gpus
and it's the current which burns the components, my electronics are dusty but I believe the hotter it gets the more resistance increases and also the current and so the watts rise more and more "exponentially" as it gets hot..I'm not googling it I hope I remember correctly >< (I was right at least in the large picture honor saved)
I would say this is true for gpus, because whatever vcore you set, it's the +12V current coming from the pcie cables that burn the cards, the few videos I watched all had the power stages blown not the gpu die at least in non extreme overclocking
cpus that's another thing I'm sure
I think what he meant is the same thing I tried to explain about the 3090 burning out (which happened to me)
(V x A)=W
it's not watts that burn components nor voltage since for example on a gpu it's fixed at 12V it's the amperes A that go up..a lot and have giant spikes on gpus
and it's the current which burns the components, my electronics are dusty but I believe the hotter it gets the more resistance increases and also the current and so the watts rise more and more "exponentially" as it gets hot..I'm not googling it I hope I remember correctly >< (I was right at least in the large picture honor saved)
I would say this is true for gpus, because whatever vcore you set, it's the +12V current coming from the pcie cables that burn the cards, the few videos I watched all had the power stages blown not the gpu die at least in non extreme overclocking
cpus that's another thing I'm sure
The 12v hits the VRM and as soon as that happens the 12v is converted to something else.
It is very seldom that the 12v input is the culprit of burned components, most of the time it is Vcore, Vmem or other supporting voltages that the card makes that do damage.
Many cards now have fuses and 12v current measurements to prevent almost all sources of 12v damage.
12V rails only transport around 20-40 Amps, on the Vcore side of the VRM we are talking about 1-1.2V at 200-400 Amps instead.
If the GPU die shorts or uses too much power due to overclocking with very high power limits, the VRM chips can still burn out, because they are not able to deliver the demand.
6ghz!!! Dammmmm!!! Okay I havent been around in a few years now but that is Freakin Fast boy!- Think I might pull the trigger on one of these for myself I havent had a gaming rig in ages.
Daughter has i5 4690k
Son has Ryzen 5 5600G
I like the Amd system just a bit more but hey whos to say you cant have both. Love how Intel is killing it w the Ghz Race times sure have changed.
150w tdp what ? where ? how ? not wanting to scare people but here is a 100% intel stock settings 13900k
not the best bin and worse than a 13900ks but the watts are def not 150 lol
and then with the bios "msi boost"
and if you have doubts about my cooling setup which I can understand check then temps of a 441w 4090
it's not my liquid cooling the problem it's the 380w on 2 centimeters
13900k 252mm2 - 4090 608mm2 so 2.4x larger surface
I don't know what those PL are supposed to be (don't care about theorical power limits irrelevant in real life) but I dislike the fact they are throwing numbers half or twice lower than the wattage you actually have example with Silva above, unless he knows and has a conversion to real watts
150w tdp what ? where ? how ? not wanting to scare people but here is a 100% intel stock settings 13900k
not the best bin and worse than a 13900ks but the watts are def not 150 lol
and then with the bios "msi boost"
and if you have doubts about my cooling setup which I can understand check then temps of a 441w 4090
it's not my liquid cooling the problem it's the 380w on 2 centimeters
13900k 252mm2 - 4090 608mm2 so 2.4x larger surface
I don't know what those PL are supposed to be (don't care about theorical power limits irrelevant in real life) but I dislike the fact they are throwing numbers half or twice lower than the wattage you actually have example with Silva above, unless he knows and has a conversion to real watts
Noone care about playing Cinebench...
Show us power usage in games 😉
What is your "voltage" under load?
13900k stock I can run about 1.1v load.
and then with the bios "msi boost"
and if you have doubts about my cooling setup which I can understand check then temps of a 441w 4090
it's not my liquid cooling the problem it's the 380w on 2 centimeters 13900k 252mm2 - 4090 608mm2 so 2.4x larger surface I don't know what those PL are supposed to be (don't care about theorical power limits irrelevant in real life) but I dislike the fact they are throwing numbers half or twice lower than the wattage you actually have example with Silva above, unless he knows and has a conversion to real watts