Intel 10nm Ice Lake processors will be available significant quantities this year
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Ricardo
illrigger
If they indeed do manage to reach near-parity in IPC with Zen 2 as rumored, AMD won't even need to worry about Intel in the desktop space - they win by default. Even if the rumors about the 12- and 16- core desktop chips getting delayed until Q4 are true, there are no products Intel has on their docket for at least a year that can compete at 14nm, the 9900k is already pushing that node farther than it should be pushed.
chispy
" desktop procs remain at 14nm for a year or two. " , I suspect those 2 years might turn into 3 ~ 5 years wish does not make sense , they better come up with 7nm fast and i mean like really fast as 10nm it's already dead on the water for desktops.
TLD LARS
This sentence does not inspire hope " the organization drove a nearly 2X improvement in the rate at which 10nm products move through our factories."
Anand made a first look on a laptop model that used the 10nm, i think it was used exclusively in that one laptop model, because the yield was so bad, it turned out that the performance was so close to 14nm, that no one could spot the difference.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13405/intel-10nm-cannon-lake-and-core-i3-8121u-deep-dive-review
HWgeek
And from that Review- Look at the Power Usage at same frequency vs current 14nm:
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/13405/Core%20Power%20per%20Thread_575px.png
nevcairiel
Aura89
HWgeek
+1,
In image above we see 8121U consumes ~40%+ more power over 8130U, Do you think that Intel made it go down to ~4W? since this is what they have to do to compete with next gen Ryzen, we all saw the eng.sample vs 9900K.
Also this year we have more refined 9th Gen low power parts, so the Gap vs this 10nm 8121U got bigger too.
I also think that Intel's 7nm will be the solution, the 10nm Fubs gonna have different usage(Tiny Chiplets/dies) - not for HEDT/ High end Desktops.
nevcairiel
Yield and power efficiency are somewhat related - they are both a product of how close to perfect your process manages to be. Its the same as the "Die lottery", if you get a perfect chip, it'll run higher clocks with less voltages, because otherwise more power is required to overcome small imperfections in the silicon.
So if the only thing they did improve was to make the process less errorprone, that results in higher yield, as well as a cleaner silicon - requiring less power to drive it.
Ricardo
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13683/intel-euvenabled-7nm-process-tech-is-on-track
So yeah, 10nm is dead.
That would, perhaps, be true, if Intel didn't already reveal that there won't be any high end 10nm processors in the next 2 years. In light of this info, there's no way they're going to be able to ship 10nm in sufficient volume and quality before 7nm gets ready for mass production.
nevcairiel