hyyyyyyyypeeee! Can't wait to see Nvidia trashing it's previous generations! (and AMD for that matter)

If 1180 will be ~15% faster compared to 1080Ti I will be very happy. However, something tells me that won't happen.

it would be worthwhile to move AMD and create a lot of competition, as in the case of processors, that's when the price struggle will begin instead of monopoly. Unfortunately in many countries (including my home country) where the crypto currency is not regulated, prices are too high for Video cards

Hopefully the wait is minimal and I can get my hands on a new mainstream Nvidia graphics card before Kunos release ACC on Steam.

cryohellinc:

If 1180 will be ~15% faster compared to 1080Ti I will be very happy. However, something tells me that won't happen.

1170 5% faster than 1080ti, 1180 25% faster than 1080ti and 1180ti 55% faster than 1080ti. Simple mathematics.

warlord:

1170 5% faster than 1080ti, 1180 25% faster than 1080ti and 1180ti 55% faster than 1080ti. Simple mathematics.

lol simple mathematics you pulled out of your ass .

Agent-A01:

lol simple mathematics you pulled out of your ass .

You currently have the best gpu around. Why so much disbelief and distrust against Nvidia for the new series? Is there any reason for it?

warlord:

You currently have the best gpu around. Why so much disbelief and distrust against Nvidia for the new series? Is there any reason for it?

Physics

Denial:

Physics

Supposedly we should be able to play 4k 120hz 120fps with high settings before 2020. If physics laws agree with Nvidia I cannot see that happening in time. That's what I believe.

warlord:

Supposedly we should be able to play 4k 120hz 120fps with high settings before 2020. If physics laws agree with Nvidia I cannot see that happening in time. That's what I believe.

2020 is two years away and you're talking about a product that's supposedly launching in the next several months on a process only slightly better than 16nm. Now obviously it's all conjecture at this point but it's going to be really difficult for Nvidia to squeeze 50%+ performance boost over a 1080Ti with a 300w TDP. The only way they can come close to that level of performance is if they ship something as large as a Titan V - but even with the tensor cores gated the V hits 300w mark and only manages 30-35% increase at 800mm2. I guess it's possible Nvidia pulls a rabbit out of it's hat and has some magical improvements we don't know about but nothing we've seen thus far indicates they do. Honestly the more I read about the number of fairly large 7nm chips that start will start shipping this year the more I either think the 12nm rumor/leaks are fake or Nvidia is planning for this new series to be really short lived and may not even get a Ti variant. Why would you ship 500+mm2 cards to beat last generation models when you can wait a few months and ship 300mm2 ones? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Denial:

Why would you ship 500+mm2 cards to beat last generation models when you can wait a few months and ship 300mm2 ones? Doesn't make any sense to me.

As usual, you make a lot of sense. I could only see what you described in the above sentence happening if they know they won't get a 300mm² core soon, or if, and that's kind of out there, they didn't think they'd end up with as many chips of Pascal resting around, and need to ramp up their offers because of competition, or more likely, unwillingness of the market to buy said 500mm² GPU cards (which I could imagine if they're not pushing the performance enough).

warlord:

1170 5% faster than 1080ti, 1180 25% faster than 1080ti and 1180ti 55% faster than 1080ti. Simple mathematics.

Buddy, I don't know what kind of Herb you are smoking but those numbers are a bit off. My 980Ti classified was 21-22k on firestrike (stock cooler, on air), about the same as a 1080 (stock cooler, on air), max 2-5% difference in frames. However, my 1080ti SC Black is about 32-33k (Stock cooler, on air), which is about 50% faster than either of them. So, no need to expect anything better this time around as well. Base your numbers on some facts, or they will stink up the place.

I see. So if the jump in performance is minimal, the new series will have a little life time and no TI model will be in production. Perhaps 1160 will equal 1070, 1170 will equal 1080 (11gbps) and finally a simple ~10% improvement in performance with 1180 vs 1080ti.

warlord:

I see. So if the jump in performance is minimal, the new series will have a little life time and no TI model will be in production. Perhaps 1160 will equal 1070, 1170 will equal 1080 (11gbps) and finally a simple ~10% improvement in performance with 1180 vs 1080ti.

Yep, that is what I am hoping. On the top end, considering Titan V (~800mm2) with HBM2 memory, which has almost double the die size of 1080ti (~400mm2), is only 30% faster (in games) at max when compared to 1080ti with GDDR5X. So, if they cut out tensor cores, and it gets shrunk to a 1180ti (~600mm2), it may be about 30% faster than 1080ti. Only time will tell how wrong I am, but for now these are my calculations.

craycray:

Yep, that is what I am hoping. On the top end, considering Titan V (~800mm2) with HBM2 memory, which has almost double the die size of 1080ti (~400mm2), is only 30% faster (in games) at max when compared to 1080ti with GDDR5X. So, if they cut out tensor cores, and it gets shrunk to a 1180ti (~600mm2), it may be about 30% faster than 1080ti. Only time will tell how wrong I am, but for now these are my calculations.

That could be a 1180ti but I don't know what profit Nvidia has to produce a gaming gpu titan class for a 30% improvement after two whole years. Perhaps without real rivalry from Amd this time around they will give a semi-next gen gpu. I fear until 2020 things in PC technology will not run as fast as they did.

warlord:

That could be a 1180ti but I don't know what profit Nvidia has to produce a gaming gpu titan class for a 30% improvement after two whole years. Perhaps without real rivalry from Amd this time around they will give a semi-next gen gpu. I fear until 2020 things in PC technology will not run as fast as they did.

Agreed 100%. My thinking on that is, AMD is going to focus on mid range GPU market with smaller chips, and for datacentres they will tie them together with 'Infinity Fabric' like data path, (just like Epyc ties Ryzen cores together for DCs in CPU market). So, I dont expect a whole lot of competition on the top end, which is sad for us and the ones who like to buy top end GPUs.