As item offered and sold, maybe. Let's not forget that some critical systems rely still floppy disks. Moreover, data recovery from a SSD is good as dead. Chances are slim to none.

Good, this is long overdue.

Not gonna happen. 30 TB HAMR drives just announced few weeks ago, with even bigger ones coming up. Sure, they'll become more and more niche, and shifting away from small business and consumer and more to the enterprise, but disappearing ? No way Jose !

Eventually, will be less and less common. Maybe some new material will be discovered and a breakthrough will add some new lifespan. We all know that all tech eventually disappears and something new appears.

Imagine being Seagate, WD and Toshiba CEO being told that their products will disappear in 5 years, after they've invested for 15 years in technologies like HAMR, MAMR, platter nanocoating and probably other detailed stuff that we don't even know about. https://media.tenor.com/6AFI49K6JQsAAAAM/news-are-you-serious.gif I'm pretty sure my storage server's current 200+TB HDD array will be a 500+TB HDD array by 2028, with absolutely zero SSDs in it. The SSDs will be in all the other machines as temporary work data.

I was looking at SSD's yesterday and you can now get NVME 2TB for 80. I will always have a couple of spinner just for photos and one being for back up.

Agreed on the large storage part (currently using HDD on my NAS due to the extremely high cost of 8TB+ SSD), but I do have a couple of SSD on my NAS too (for R/W cache, which makes a huge difference on quite a few scenarios).

Just to be clear, it's not like Hard Drives are akin to the Monoliths in 2001: A Space Odyssey, and scientists have determined that their time spent monitoring humanity is coming to an end, and they'll be disappearing by 2028 so as to migrate to another solar system, or another dimension. Though that would explain the soft humming noise mine sometimes make.

Babel-17:

Just to be clear, it's not like Hard Drives are akin to the Monoliths in 2001: A Space Odyssey, and scientists have determined that their time spent monitoring humanity is coming to an end, and they'll be disappearing by 2028 so as to migrate to another solar system, or another dimension. Though that would explain the soft humming noise mine sometimes make.

Lol. Buddy what ever you are on I need some.:p 🙄 😎:D

this will happen if ssd will match hdd price per GB.. otherwise in a lot of application this will never happen.

hope all mine won't go poof on dec 31st 2027, planning to get another spinner soon, I keep them in a docking station and turn on when I need backup or dig up some old data.

I wonder why hdd are not disappeared already.

Undying:

I wonder why hdd are not disappeared already.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07Y3JXGPL/ - 14 TB, 270 € (quite a lot, I got many of mine even cheaper than this, but since then all prices have gone up) https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Crucial-MX500-CT2000MX500SSD1-NAND-Internal/dp/B003J5JB12/ - 2TB, 110 € x 7 = 770 € Yeah, I also wonder why HDDs haven't disappeared already... 🙄

My p0rn stash begs to differ.

anticupidon:

As item offered and sold, maybe. Let's not forget that some critical systems rely still floppy disks. Moreover, data recovery from a SSD is good as dead. Chances are slim to none.

The use of floppy disks is a little different. In some cases, such machines use floppies because they simply cannot afford any downtime whatsoever, so they're forced to run indefinitely until a parallel replacement exists. In other cases, it's because floppies have a few functional differences on older systems, particularly with how they're booted. Some organizations have software that only runs on an outdated hardware platform and perhaps expects a floppy drive. In some cases, they can just switch to virtual floppies, if virtualizing the rest of the system can be done easily enough. The same thing happens with tape drives: they fundamentally work different than other storage methods, where backup software using them expects a certain behavior. So, virtual tape drives made entirely of HDDs exist. But when it comes to HDDs, you can do a SSD as a drop-in replacement with no further modification to either the software or the hardware; you don't have to spoof anything or do anything hacky. Worst-case scenario, you use an adapter to convert from SATA to ATA, but ATA SSDs have existed for a long time. You might lose performance due to a lack of TIRM from the host OS, but even a poorly maintained budget SSD is still faster than the fastest HDD from 30 years ago. In the perspective of software or firmware, there is nothing preventing HDDs from becoming completely obsoleted that I'm aware of. Anyway, you are right that once data is lost/corrupt on a SSD, you're pretty much screwed. I'm sure in a lot of cases, RAID wouldn't be much help either, since both drives would have the same environmental conditions and have the same level of wear, so i one dies, the other is either also dead or close to it. I think this is why tape drives are still in use, because they can still contain massive amounts of data in a small physical space, but they can be written to quickly and they're still pretty reliable. If the drive itself fails, it's no big deal because the storage medium is physically separate. The only really bad thing about tape drives is attempting to recover the data.

Alessio1989:

this will happen if ssd will match hdd price per GB.. otherwise in a lot of application this will never happen.

SSDs can't just match in cost, but also in capacity. While I think it's very possible for SSDs to match either dollar-per-gigabyte or gigabyte-per-square-centimeter in 2028, I don't see something being both.

Uuuhm, no they will not. For cold backup storage i prefer a HDD, i just let it chug away while doing other things anyways.

wavetrex:

Imagine being Seagate, WD and Toshiba CEO being told that their products will disappear in 5 years, after they've invested for 15 years in technologies like HAMR, MAMR, platter nanocoating and probably other detailed stuff that we don't even know about. https://media.tenor.com/6AFI49K6JQsAAAAM/news-are-you-serious.gif I'm pretty sure my storage server's current 200+TB HDD array will be a 500+TB HDD array by 2028, with absolutely zero SSDs in it. The SSDs will be in all the other machines as temporary work data.

Indeed, cuz good luck recovering data from a dead SSD, especially if one of the storage chips die.

Undying:

I wonder why hdd are not disappeared already.

Different means of data storage...extreme difference in the long term when left without power in HDD's favor.

Potential for SSD data loss after extended shutdown ...The JEDEC spec for Enterprise SSD drives requires that the drives retain data for a minimum of 3 months at 40C. This means that after 3 months of a system being powered off in an environment that is at 40C or less, there is a potential of data loss and/or drive failures. This power off time limitation is due to the physical characteristics of Flash SSD media's gradual loss of electrical charge over an extended power down period. There is a potential for data loss and/or flash cell characteristic shift, leading to drive failure.... IBM recommends the following: Always perform regular backups and make sure you have recently backed your system up prior to extended shutdowns. A system (and its enclosed drives) should be powered up at least 2 weeks after 2 months of system power off. If a drive has an error indicating it is at end of life we recommend not powering off the system for extended periods of time. Proper environmental control procedures should still be in place to ensure systems are experiencing less than 40C at all times, even if the systems are powered down. If a system is being retired and used for another activity in the future, the drives should be cleared with a format. This will help prevent SSD failure upon power up, even if the data is not needed. This can be performed with the command "chdrive -task format " to any drive once in a candidate state

So sure...HDD will be abandoned by 2028...when today even using S5 system power mode can potentially degrade data on your regular consumer SSD if you don't turn on your PC for a couple of days. All the horror stories on Amazon regarding External drives losing data/dying tend to be about SSD models used as long term storage and left unattended for a couple of months. Might as well announce the death of the Personal Computer (again)...

Not available for sale in 5 years? I seriously doubt it.

Current year streaming services are a mess. Interest in downloadable media increases for the foreseeable future. A single TV season in 4k can easily be 40-100gb. 8k will reset the game before ssd can catch up. Chips ever slower shrink rate won't help either.