HDD Sales dropped by 30 to 40% the past year

#6034978

Undying

2022-07-19 08:54

No surprise with ssds being this cheap.

#6034982

DirtyDee

2022-07-19 09:11

I haven't used an HDD in nearly 15 years.

#6034996

TheDeeGee

2022-07-19 09:41

Still a got a load of 2,5 Inch HDDs in USB 3.0 enclosures for cold storage offline backups, no freakin' way i use SSDs for that.

#6035010

icedman

2022-07-19 10:29

I still have a 1tb hdd in my main system that until it dies ill keep using it for media and garbage files but I doubt ill ever get another hdd they just don't make sense anymore for me or anyone I know

#6035041

RavenMaster

2022-07-19 12:04

I stopped using HDD's back in 2014. SSD's are faster and much less likely to break due to have no moving parts inside them.

#6035048

Kaarme

2022-07-19 12:37

DirtyDee:

I haven't used an HDD in nearly 15 years.

That's hardcore. I only got my first SSDs a decade ago. I don't have HDDs inside my PCs anymore, but I do use external ones for backups and storing stuff not accessed often (or at all).

#6035067

TheDeeGee

2022-07-19 13:55

RavenMaster:

I stopped using HDD's back in 2014. SSD's are faster and much less likely to break due to have no moving parts inside them.

Good luck recovering precious data when a SSD breaks. With a HDD files can 99% of the time still be recovered, if you're willing to pay. And don't be a fool to use only 1 drive as backup, 2 or more is recommended.

#6035081

SHS

2022-07-19 14:28

TheDeeGee:

Good luck recovering precious data when a SSD breaks. With a HDD files can 99% of the time still be recovered, if you're willing to pay. And don't be a fool to use only 1 drive as backup, 2 or more is recommended.

Exactly some foolish people around here don't get it

#6035088

Alessio1989

2022-07-19 14:37

HDD are unreliable now with this insane huge sizes per plate and they fail to isolate areas around bad sectors.. not a big surprise.

#6035089

Prince Valiant

2022-07-19 14:39

I'd guess there was a lot of temporary demand after Chia mining popped up. Availability of 8TB+ drives was terrible for a while and the price hikes have yet to come down. If the $/TB came down to something reasonable the demand would surely increase.

#6035099

fantaskarsef

2022-07-19 14:51

I haven't bought a HDD in the last 6 or so years. I do not even have so much private data that I'd need more than 1 or 2TB of storage in total. And if so, I probably could afford a SATA SSD for such a purprose any time.

#6035100

Silva

2022-07-19 14:52

Prince Valiant:

I'd guess there was a lot of temporary demand after Chia mining popped up. Availability of 8TB+ drives was terrible for a while and the price hikes have yet to come down. If the $/TB came down to something reasonable the demand would surely increase.

This ^^ There's always demand if the price is right, witch isn't. Last year I bought a 6TB WD external drive for storage. Obviously I don't run HDD's on my PC anymore as noise and speed are my concerns.

#6035112

Prince Valiant

2022-07-19 15:13

fantaskarsef:

I haven't bought a HDD in the last 6 or so years. I do not even have so much private data that I'd need more than 1 or 2TB of storage in total. And if so, I probably could afford a SATA SSD for such a purprose any time.

You probably already know this but, make sure to provide it power every so often.

Silva:

This ^^ There's always demand if the price is right, witch isn't. Last year I bought a 6TB WD external drive for storage. Obviously I don't run HDD's on my PC anymore as noise and speed are my concerns.

The cheapest I've seen in recent months was $15/TB for a CMR drive. It was a nice enough price but not low enough to make me bite when I don't need the space. I still use HDDs as secondary drives but I don't need a lot of faster storage.

#6035120

0blivious

2022-07-19 15:38

Just out of curiosity, how many dead SSDs/NVMEs have people had? So far, over the past decade or so, all of mine (about a dozen) keep soldiering on. Some have just become irrelevantly small and obsolete. None have ever died on me nor come close to shutting down sectors. (*knock on simulated wood) Not that they can't die, I've just lost count of how many mechanical drives have failed on me. Some died with a bit of notice (thanks!) while others just spectacularly stopped without warning.

#6035130

Lebon30

2022-07-19 16:00

I bought 50TB worth of WD Red Pros earlier this year. Using 4 in my NAS and I have a cold spare if things go south. There's no way I'd achieve the same capacity at a better price with SSDs.

#6035135

TheDeeGee

2022-07-19 16:20

0blivious:

Just out of curiosity, how many dead SSDs/NVMEs have people had? So far, over the past decade or so, all of mine (about a dozen) keep soldiering on. Some have just become irrelevantly small and obsolete. None have ever died on me nor come close to shutting down sectors. (*knock on simulated wood) Not that they can't die, I've just lost count of how many mechanical drives have failed on me. Some died with a bit of notice (thanks!) while others just spectacularly stopped without warning.

1 HDD in the past 25 years, during the late 90s. Was either a Maxtor or Seagate, can't remember. 1 SSD in the past 14 years. Was a OCZ Vertex 120GB from 2009 acting up at some point and wiping itself randomly. I will still use HDDs for offline storage, because the platters can always be read when the head dies. If one of the memory chips on a SSD dies your data is gone forever. And i have 2 offline copies of my backups, so if one HDD fails i still have the live data on a the SSD and 1 offline backup on HDD.

#6035147

TLD LARS

2022-07-19 17:34

Lebon30:

I bought 50TB worth of WD Red Pros earlier this year. Using 4 in my NAS and I have a cold spare if things go south. There's no way I'd achieve the same capacity at a better price with SSDs.

Totally agree there is still no financially good replacement for HDDs. I can buy a 16tb WD Gold enterprise disk for the same money as a mid level 4tb SSD. If someone needs 16tb of storage, going HDD would give enough money left over to buy a 3080ti or 6900xt.

#6035203

fantaskarsef

2022-07-19 19:40

0blivious:

Just out of curiosity, how many dead SSDs/NVMEs have people had? So far, over the past decade or so, all of mine (about a dozen) keep soldiering on. Some have just become irrelevantly small and obsolete. None have ever died on me nor come close to shutting down sectors. (*knock on simulated wood) Not that they can't die, I've just lost count of how many mechanical drives have failed on me. Some died with a bit of notice (thanks!) while others just spectacularly stopped without warning.

In all the time I used PCs, I had one HDD die (Seagate Bigfoot 2GB iirc, in use for a three or four years), and a OCZ Vertex 2 Ex (in use for what felt like 2 years and 2 days, just stopped working from one day to the next).

#6035210

mackintosh

2022-07-19 19:48

0blivious:

Just out of curiosity, how many dead SSDs/NVMEs have people had? So far, over the past decade or so, all of mine (about a dozen) keep soldiering on. Some have just become irrelevantly small and obsolete. None have ever died on me nor come close to shutting down sectors. (*knock on simulated wood) Not that they can't die, I've just lost count of how many mechanical drives have failed on me. Some died with a bit of notice (thanks!) while others just spectacularly stopped without warning.

Only had a single SSD fail on me, an OCZ Vertex 2 panic locked a decade or so ago. As for HDDs, a brand new WD Green 4TB died in my NAS within days of being installed. Other than that, nothing since a Quantum Fireball in 2001, and before that I lost several Segates, Maxtors and a single IBM Deskstar in the 90s.

#6035220

DirtyDee

2022-07-19 19:58

Kaarme:

That's hardcore. I only got my first SSDs a decade ago. I don't have HDDs inside my PCs anymore, but I do use external ones for backups and storing stuff not accessed often (or at all).

I've only ever used my computers for gaming and web-browsing, I've never felt the need to store a bunch of personal stuff on them. As far as reliability goes I haven't had an SSD die on me yet, but had plenty of HDD's that did.