GrooveShark Shuts Down Services Completely (updated)
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jbmcmillan
Like the EU courts have made sense on some of the same issues it's more an issue of the same legal arguments used over and over again then precedents are set.It is then easier for the next company to go for a cash grab.
nhlkoho
Common sense doesn't = the written law. If the law is written a certain way, the judges have a duty to uphold the law regardless of how stupid it is. Then if its found the law is no longer valid, there needs to be a push to fix the law.
Reardan
What are you talking about..The ruling where the US said that an IP isn't good enough to trace a person? That one?
fantaskarsef
Exactly, they're not making much sense either, that's why I said it's swapping over.
Which again puts the laws to be not of common sense. Does that make it better, just because it's written down? 😉
Bansaku
Remember in the 1980s and 1990s when people used to dub cassettes and movies for their family and friends and nobody gave two squirts of piss?! Hell, the ability to dub a CD or cassette was a selling feature for years with rental places often selling blank tapes alongside the latest releases!
I guess back in those days there were better people to hassle and sue.
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BigBlockTowncar
It is a lot easier for a group of people to download music or a movie than it was making copies of tapes and VHS. If 5 friends wanted a copy of your Terminator VHS tape, ok, 5 playbacks at 90 minutes.....they'll be done in 7 or 8 hours.
Angantyr
And they have now shut down their service. You can see their farewell message on the website http://grooveshark.com/
shoja
They have to hand over everything.....wtf man, that's not cool smh
Extraordinary
If it got them out of the $736m fine, Id probably take the deal too
shoja
Let's hope so!
Extraordinary
It's ridiculous, this anti-piracy fines cr4p, there's no way the artists have lost out on that much money from people sharing a few MP3s - for one simple fact, the people downloading them, were never going to buy them anyway
Clouseau
Let me get this straight, pirating games bad...pirating music and movies is ok. What kind of inconsistent logic is that. Making backup copies for yourself has always been legal. Plus it is impossible to even come up with a ballpark figure of lost revenue. That is why this is considered a fine. Apparently the fines are not steep enough since this kind of stuff still occurs out in front of everyone's eyes. It is there fault for thinking individuals would not take advantage of the freedom they were granted. Laws exist to keep honest people honest. Criminals will always find a way to skirt the law.
rta
Wait...how much?
Because from what I understand *Spotify itself pays only $0.007 per play.
I mean, I saw this coming from a mile away with GrooveShark but that ruling is insane. This music industry is so full of hypocrites it's mind boggling.
* http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-25217353
Reddoguk
Same old same old.
Only this time Goliath wins one over but David will be back to rule the day once again.
I just think the music industry wanted GS for itself. Don't be surprised to see all GS hard work reskinned, renamed and back out with some sort of fees.
Despoiler
I once saw an infographic put together by RIAA that claimed that piracy cost the industry X number of dollars. I don't remember the exact number, but I remember they had based it on the possible court damages of $150k per song. The number was more money than was in circulation in the entire world. That tells you how completely ridiculous all of this is.
Clouseau
No. What it shows one is how profitable pirating is. Those fines may be a staggering amount yet it has no effect. What it also shows is that amount was not paid to that tune or one would see more companies that have more cash on hand than governments, like Apple.
Angantyr
I'm still baffled how they managed to " Haggle " down the original lawsuit from 17Billion dollars ( Yeah, they were sued that much ) to 736 Mil. http://readwrite.com/2011/11/23/music_industry_wants_17_billion_from_streaming_sit
Mineria
Calculate that in average CD price where those songs are split up on CD's, then check how many downloads of each CD there has been made, 700 million is probably a bargain.
Another thing is, that 5000 songs in no way covers all the records available on GrooveShark, which means that only a few copyright holders take part in this lawsuit.
To all that defend pirating, if you want a song and you can't afford it, is it that hard to live without it instead of stealing it?
After some while the song/record is probably for sale totally legal somewhere.
Mineria
Worst bull**** argument I have seen so far.
You really live in France?
Extraordinary
It is pure BS, where's the evidence that the artist lost this much money?
Where is the evidence that the downloaders would have bought the music if it was not on GS for free?
Their saying $150k per MP3 is just a random digit, pure guess work, no-one knows exactly how much was lost, there is a chance that absolutely nothing was lost if every download was by an individual who would never have bought it in the first place
Yes my statement is guesswork, as is their $150k per MP3 estimate, both just as valid as each other, so why do they get to win?
Because they make millions from it, that's why, they are worse than the pirates, think that $736m would have gone straight to the artists? Or even a decent % of it? Nope, straight in the anti-piracy trolls pockets
