Gigabyte removes PCIe 4.0 support on all AMD motherboards that are not X570
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nevcairiel
Gigabyte had no choice but to remove this. AMD practically forced them. AMD has full control over the AGESA, they don't let manufacturers modify it at all. So with a new update, they basically forced PCIe 4.0 to be unavailable in AGESA, and any board vendor that wants to update to it (and they really should want to), is simply forced to discontinue PCIe 4.0 on 300 or 400 series boards.
Its really their own fault for starting a marketing thing for PCIe4.0 contrary to AMDs wishes. Now they are left in a position where it has to be discontinued. And any other vendors that tried to do the same thing will also have to remove it not before long.
Undying
Im sure others will do the same thing. Amd needs to sell x570 boards somehow.
Astyanax
Barry J
So boards capable of PCIe 4.0 are being forced to use lower PCIe standard. Is this an attempt to force users to upgrade to newer tech or am I missing something.
I though AMD was the nice company and Nvidia/Intel the evil ones.
Kaarme
BReal85
Venix
AMD pulled an intel on that one ...about stability issues, well let the mb ventors and decide if they want to support it or not , the confusion is not even an issue since older motherboards they do not even advertise it on the box so casual users are oblivious of it anyway and more advanced users like the majority of us here (we are enthusiasts this is why we are here after all) we are not getting confused with such things .
rl66
But there is still only one X570 m-ATX motherboard on the market and few m-ITX... and so, those who want small PC still get 400 series (and those with 300 would not like to change too 🙂 ).
Personaly i have get the bios with PCIe 4,0 for my B450 but i don't care my GPU is still PCIe 3.0, and when there will be lot of GPU PCIe 4.0 in shop, this PC would'nt be old enough to change the GPU...
Other point to meditate about Gigabyte decision: the 550 is planed just after the summer...
Yxskaft
IMO AMD should have solved this on the driver level. Have the platform run PCI-E 3 as default but have a "use on your own risk" tool that enables PCI-E 4.0
rl66
nevcairiel
schmidtbag
Kaarme
Noisiv
Kaarme
nevcairiel
waltc3
I read a few posts by people who had actually tried the GB PCIe4 support, and they say it's being removed because it never worked and created a lot of WHEA warnings in the process of trying to work. Why people might assume it would work flawlessly beats me. These older products were never designed to support PCIe4. But anyway--I'm always amazed at people who spend $500+ on cpus and as much as $1400 on GPUs but want to scrimp by with the cheapest motherboard they can find--as if all motherboards are alike and the quality and support of the motherboard just doesn't have any bearing on anything! The motherboard is the logic and electrical "glue" that is the foundation of the entire system--a cheap one can cause all kinds of havoc--regardless of how much money is spent on the attached peripherals.
Kaarme
@nevcairiel A good point. Although in this case it indeed was AMD who wanted it removed, wasn't it?
Isn't the bigger problem here that there are no other 500 series mobos but the expensive X570? I don't think a person spending 500+1400 bucks of the CPU and GPU would be as opposed to getting an expensive mobo than people spending 250-350 bucks on the CPU and not wanting to spend another 200+ dollars on the mobo. Since there are no cheaper new mobos available, I guess more would feel like playing with the older generation mobos. Though there has been talk the B550 won't even have PCIe 4.0, but who knows. If it doesn't, why isn't it out yet? I have no idea what AMD is thinking here.
blkspade
I guess no one here remembers when Intel 6 series chipsets ended up having a fault that could have led to SATA degradation. Or perhaps when ASUS put out a 990fx revision touting PCIe 3.0, when the platform only officially supported 2.0 and there were problems. AMD probably makes very little for X570 chipset that they actually sell, compared to the margin mobo manufacturers make selling the whole boards. It's unlikely they charge as much as Intel for platform licensing fees. Doesn't strike me that AMD has much motive for it to be evil greed maneuver. Its perhaps more plausible that they are after uniformity and stability.
anticupidon
The infamous B3 chipset revisions with SATA bugs who trashed people's data?
Not forgotten, quite the opposite.