Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?

One can only smile when reads SubZero on a cooler package, anticipating some liquid nitrogen, only to find a good old aluminium heatsink.

Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all. You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow. Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.

this looks like the aliexpress "copper" cooler I bought, there were cheaper aluminimum ones for like 2$ I have tested air cooling with a side window (before that dumb glass panel trend which I succumbed too) - aliexpress heatsink - asrock taichi ultimate motherboard cover/heatsink and in surprisingly (or not) motherboard cover > air cooling > aftermarket heatsink (even with a fan blowing directly on it) if your motherboard already has covers don't bother they should work better or as well as those aftermarket heatsinks edit1 : didn't read they marketed that for laptops, what ? how big is it ? not like there's space for a heatsink in a laptop ? and with no airflow where would the heat go ? edit2 : my aliexpress one had a dual-sided tape thermal thing it held in place well fyi I had to use a heatgun to remove it edit3 : wow ali even has an oled display heatsink O_O now that would be interesting for the people that want displays in their show PC, google : FBM2TZ-01

QBI:

Using Samsung 950 PRO for 4 years now, and not a single time I noticed any need to cool it at all. You can't possibly reach the point where nvme ssd starts to throttle due to temperature unless you're stressing it on purpose (heavy reads + writes at the same time) or isolate it from any air flow. Even if thermal throttling is the case you can simply get a cheap small heatsink from nearest electronics store and glue it on with thermal adhesive.

The 970 Evo+ I have reached up to 89C during either benchmarks or if I gave it a job while gaming. Not on the NAND, but on the controller. Fixed it with one of these heatsinks.

fantaskarsef:

Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?

Hi there Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink Hope this helps Thanks, Jura

fantaskarsef:

Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?

M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.

Margalus:

M2 is the format that NVMe ssd's are using, so if you get an NVMe ssd it will be M2. And no, you don't need heatsinks. You can get them if you want, but not necessary.

There you see how little I bothered to differentiate, I meant PCIe slot NVMe devices, as opposed to M2 devices sry.

jura11:

Hi there Really depends on NVMe drives, case airflow and few other things On Samsung NVMe I would say you want to have NVMe heatsink, I tested only two NVMe drives on my build Samsung and Sabrent Rocket NVMe and with Samsung NVMe idle temperatures have been in mid 20's and load in 40's that's with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, with cheaper heatsink from Akasa idle temperatures have been in 30's and load in 50's to 60's With Sabrent Rocket NVMe temperatures are not issues, idle temperatures with Akasa heatsink I have seen in 28°C, load temperatures in 48°C as max, with Aquacomputer Kryos M.2 idle temperatures would drop to low 20's(seen 15°C as lowest ) and load in 30's to very low 40's From build quality I would recommend Aquacomputer Kryos M.2, its bit more expensive than these cheaper NVMe heatsink Hope this helps Thanks, Jura

Yeah I am in the process of getting to grab the information for my next year's build, as in checking out memory stuff for now. Not sure what's the big deal with SSDs getting so hot these days, I guess it comes from the high frequency of their BUS or high performance chips etc.

My Samsung 970 EVO plus Was idling in the mid 40s before I stuck a heat sink on it. brought it down 5 degrees. I also have an M2 stata drive that usually idles in the high 20s. My case has very good airflow and there is very little obstructing the airflow around the mother board.

fantaskarsef:

Since I don't have an M2 yet, do they need this? Or rather go straight for NVME / PCIe SSDs these days?

Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289 Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.

anticupidon:

One can only smile when reads SubZero on a cooler package, anticipating some liquid nitrogen, only to find a good old aluminium heatsink.

I for one would smile because it reminds me of MK: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TautHastyFeline-size_restricted.gif

schmidtbag:

Do you need the bandwidth? M.2 drives are basically just PCIe x4 slots with a SATA port. You can always get something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-2-NGFF-to-Computer-PCIe-x4-x8-x16-NVMe-SATA-Dual-SSD-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123808491289 Cheap solution for someone like yourself, or, someone in need of more M.2 slots.

Oh no actually I don't, hence I didn't really bother to read up on things until now. Would just get it for my next build next year, and because why not. But I really don't fancy having a (potentially) downclocking component for the giggles only. And have a like for classic Sub Zero as well... still looks like back in the day on Sega Megadrive 😀