Geforce RTX 4090: Custom graphics card from Lenovo spotted in quad-slot design

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Count them with me... ...that's thirteen(13) heatpipes! Holy god. xD
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That thing in that tiny case would overheat so fast. Is that also using up to 4 - 5 slots at the back and the fans look like they are as big as the case fan? I can't wait to hear how loud this thing gets, hopefully, the 4080s are not as big right guys? haha
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With this trend add-on cards will become a thing of the past: no more place for dedicated audio cards, additional usb, m2.... You just shove a big video brick inside the case and that's all. Also, because they weigh a ton more than sure you will need a pneumatic car jack to support them from tearing the motherboard apart...but hey, that's "progress".
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It's just absurd. It feels like a meme. Each time I see one, I can't stop from laughing at the size of these things.
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barbacot:

With this trend add-on cards will become a thing of the past: no more place for dedicated audio cards, additional usb, m2.... You just shove a big video brick inside the case and that's all. Also, because they weigh a ton more than sure you will need a pneumatic car jack to support them from tearing the motherboard apart...but hey, that's "progress".
TBH at this point we need a "gaming console" for the PC, an enclosure just for the GPU. I know it has been done already, but...
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0blivious:

It's just absurd. It feels like a meme. Each time I see one, I can't stop from laughing at the size of these things.
Who even cares? In standard computer case 60-70% is just unused space and air. I rather take GPU with chonky cooler and silent fans. In old days we had 1, 1.5, 2 slot cards and they sounded like yet engines.
barbacot:

With this trend add-on cards will become a thing of the past: no more place for dedicated audio cards, additional usb, m2.... You just shove a big video brick inside the case and that's all. Also, because they weigh a ton more than sure you will need a pneumatic car jack to support them from tearing the motherboard apart...but hey, that's "progress".
GPU covering some expansions slots was a problem for like 20 years. But motherboard standards weren't updated in all this time. This is not GPU makers problem. This is extremely outdated ATX standard layout problem.
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barbacot:

With this trend add-on cards will become a thing of the past: no more place for dedicated audio cards, additional usb, m2.... You just shove a big video brick inside the case and that's all. Also, because they weigh a ton more than sure you will need a pneumatic car jack to support them from tearing the motherboard apart...but hey, that's "progress".
If I somehow ended up with a card of that size, I'd most certainly make a support beam for it.
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Now we should mount the GPU to the case, motherboard + CPU are consider add-in now 😀
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Kaarme:

If I somehow ended up with a card of that size, I'd most certainly make a support beam for it.
Why not just buy a gpu supporter? There are many on the market already...
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Dragam1337:

Why not just buy a gpu supporter? There are many on the market already...
It doesn't really sound like such a complicated thing that I couldn't make one myself. At least I'd know for sure it works for my particular case. Or if it doesn't, I'd know whom to blame!
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barbacot:

With this trend add-on cards will become a thing of the past: no more place for dedicated audio cards, additional usb, m2.... You just shove a big video brick inside the case and that's all. Also, because they weigh a ton more than sure you will need a pneumatic car jack to support them from tearing the motherboard apart...but hey, that's "progress".
With with a 5 slot card you can have a soundcard in the very bottom no problem. Just beware what you buy when shopping for a motherboard, and make sure you have the right PCI-E layout. It's why i got the ASRock Z590 Steel Legend despite not having a K CPU, i simply wanted the bottom two slots for my soundcard just in case.
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Right now i can`t stop thinking if my current case ( Lincool 205) is big enough for such a monster, because of it`s compact size. Worse than that, is thinking about the enormous amount of heat being released at the back of the case. It really seems Nvidia pushed the envelope too hard for the 4090 and air coolers no longer seem good enough to cool such beasts...
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Glottiz:

Who even cares? In standard computer case 60-70% is just unused space and air. I rather take GPU with chonky cooler and silent fans. In old days we had 1, 1.5, 2 slot cards and they sounded like yet engines.
Or y'know... we could just have GPUs with a reasonable power draw. Or just do what AMD did in the past with overly power hungry GPUs and default to an AIO liquid cooler. Nowadays, the only practical reason to get something larger than an ITX/DTX case is if you actually intend to use more than a single expansion slot*. So, when you've got a quad-slot GPU, all mATX boards will be effectively pointless, and you better hope that a full ATX board has the slots you need at the bottom. Though what might be kind of interesting/amusing is if someone got a mATX board in a mid tower and used risers to access each of the hidden slots. * And yes, I know sometimes the best overclocking boards are the larger ones.
GPU covering some expansions slots was a problem for like 20 years. But motherboard standards weren't updated in all this time. This is not GPU makers problem. This is extremely outdated ATX standard layout problem.
So what do you propose would be a better layout? Personally, I've thought for a long while how it'd be nice to have something like M.2 but for x8 or x16 lanes (while also still compatible with M.2 cards). Then just have a little riser for your display connectors. That way, you get something more securely attached to the motherboard with more optimal cooling solutions.
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Glottiz:

Who even cares? In standard computer case 60-70% is just unused space and air. I rather take GPU with chonky cooler and silent fans. In old days we had 1, 1.5, 2 slot cards and they sounded like yet engines. GPU covering some expansions slots was a problem for like 20 years. But motherboard standards weren't updated in all this time. This is not GPU makers problem. This is extremely outdated ATX standard layout problem.
People who use other expansion cards and don't run a water loop might care. People who side mount their GPUs might care. Are these expected to be silent? The ATX layout is just what we have and any future adopted iterations aren't likely to include special consideration for Buick sized video cards. I'm just poking fun at it (4x slot) and my only actual concern is this stuff tends to eventually trickle down into mainstream products.
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IT only has one single 12VHPWR power plug of the ATX 3.0 specification,how can any real PC Gamer be satisfied with only one. Real Gamers need Double 12VHPWR power plug so I will personally not be buying the Leevno RTX 4090 and yeah I can not speil Lonveo.
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chonky alright
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Dragam1337:

Why not just buy a gpu supporter? There are many on the market already...
Well, since I have a backup car jack in the garage why not use it?
TheDeeGee:

With with a 5 slot card you can have a soundcard in the very bottom no problem. Just beware what you buy when shopping for a motherboard, and make sure you have the right PCI-E layout. It's why i got the ASRock Z590 Steel Legend despite not having a K CPU, i simply wanted the bottom two slots for my soundcard just in case.
And the amount of free space between the sound card and the fans of a four slot GPU is what? 1 cm? - hardly an ideal situation for the GPU cooling....
schmidtbag:

Or y'know... we could just have GPUs with a reasonable power draw. Or just do what AMD did in the past with overly power hungry GPUs and default to an AIO liquid cooler. Nowadays, the only practical reason to get something larger than an ITX/DTX case is if you actually intend to use more than a single expansion slot*. So, when you've got a quad-slot GPU, all mATX boards will be effectively pointless, and you better hope that a full ATX board has the slots you need at the bottom. Though what might be kind of interesting/amusing is if someone got a mATX board in a mid tower and used risers to access each of the hidden slots. * And yes, I know sometimes the best overclocking boards are the larger ones. So what do you propose would be a better layout? Personally, I've thought for a long while how it'd be nice to have something like M.2 but for x8 or x16 lanes (while also still compatible with M.2 cards). Then just have a little riser for your display connectors. That way, you get something more securely attached to the motherboard with more optimal cooling solutions.
I think that now with this trend for very thick graphic cards, redesign of the layout is necessary - I don't like the onboard audio solutions no matter how good they are advertised - I like to have my own dedicated audio card - also a lot of motherboards have only one usb 3 motherboard connector for the case front panel and a lot of pc cases now have four usb slots - 2 on each cable - only gigabyte has two dedicated usb 3 connectors for the front panel on some of their motherboards so the solution is a dedicated usb card with internal connectors inserted in the motherboard if you have space, add-on cards for m2 drives, I also need an add-on card with two serial ports for my scientific data acquisition - a lot of scientific equipment is still on serial port - usb is a rare thing. So yes, in the immortal words from GTA VC: "somebody do something!"
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schmidtbag:

So what do you propose would be a better layout? Personally, I've thought for a long while how it'd be nice to have something like M.2 but for x8 or x16 lanes (while also still compatible with M.2 cards). Then just have a little riser for your display connectors. That way, you get something more securely attached to the motherboard with more optimal cooling solutions.
Personally, I'd like to see real development and change. A single optic fiber would be able to carry 16xPCIe 5.0 worth of data, in theory, but I'm not sure if the heat from the components would be a problem. I guess it would depend on if the fiber comes all the way from the CPU or if there's a mobo socket, which is then connected to the CPU traditionally via copper. Of course in practice there would need to be power delivery as well, worth 75W, or however much the PCIe socket was rated for.
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Kaarme:

Personally, I'd like to see real development and change. A single optic fiber would be able to carry 16xPCIe 5.0 worth of data, in theory, but I'm not sure if the heat from the components would be a problem. I guess it would depend on if the fiber comes all the way from the CPU or if there's a mobo socket, which is then connected to the CPU traditionally via copper. Of course in practice there would need to be power delivery as well, worth 75W, or however much the PCIe socket was rated for.
Some of my colleges in a lab "played" with this with some success. There is however a problem: it is not practical today because the computer is still an electronic device and it uses electronic logic to perform computation so you need converters...you see the problem here. Also, a lot of computer operations are parallel so you need to replicate this parallelism in lots of optic fibers or again, use converters - not practical. While silicon is still dominant it is not practical and efficient to use fiber optics in computers - best case scenarios would be photonics computer, meaning that the logic can input and output light so no need for converters but we are still far away from adoption of this technology for the masses- can be done but I suspect nobody could buy a pc for home based on this yet - it is not commercially viable...