GeForce RTX 4070 (founder edition) review
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Undying
I had more crashes and instability with an nvidia card than amd. This driver myth needs to stop.
You want bad drivers? Get an Intel card and see for yourself.
wavetrex
Yeah, very weird that the company with 80% of marketshare has more money to exchange knowledge with Microsoft and do a lot more testing.
And even then they still f'up every few driver releases and need hotfixes...
Again, don't think that I'm defending AMD, I'm not. Both companies are guilty of rushing new drivers out of the door... sometimes it happens that the consequences are worse than expected.
Krizby
Myth, LOL, windows bricking bug was litterally last month.
I will take simple crashes over losing my Windows installation, thanks
Chert
This card has a memory bandwidth bottleneck. It's performance notably drops off at higher resolutions and detail levels. Raster and Raytracing performance lies somewhere around a RTX 3080. The only reason to buy this rather than a 3080 is for DLSS3 FG.
Undying
They only selling point for 40 series cards excluding 4090.
Krizby
120W less power consumption
AV1 encode/decode
Shader Execution Reordering will improve RT perf down the line (available in CP2077 new 1.62 patch).
Kinda crazy to buy 6800XT/3080 at the same price as 4070
Kaarme
I'm not sure how you are going to lose hundreds of dollars worth of software because of it, but if there's a Guru3D member who doesn't make regular backups, they should ask Hilbert to delete their account and never come back.
Not that I'd be defending AMD for such a foolish bug, even if MS contributed to it with that unpolished OS called Win11, but let's not blow the issue out of proportion.
HybOj
6800xt all day over 4070 because it will actually run the games, while 12gb will die suddenly.
Chert
Just means that if you already have one, no reason to get the 4070 unless DLSS3 FG interests you. Maybe wade into the 2nd hand market and hopefully get a non-mining one if you're still on a 2000 series or older vidcard.
Undying
12gb is fine today just like 8gb was fine 2 years ago but going forward it will become a limit.
Krizby
The bug could brick windows installation and you can't use system restore LOL, perhaps do some more reading before talking could do you more favors.
Yeah sure shift the blame to Win11, AMD can do no wrong 😛, oh btw I have been using Win11 for 6 months now, no particular issue.
Chert
12Gb of VRAM should be enough for the next few years but the prob here now is the memory bandwidth bottleneck.
wavetrex
I have to agree, it would be crazy to buy 6800XT today.
<- 6800 XT owner.
But it's equally crazy to buy either 4070 or 4070 Ti when the trend for the 7900XT or XTX is clear, both are slowly but surely getting cheaper.
I give it 6 month at most until 7900XT is roughly at the same price as this 4070 launched today, and I don't think one needs a masters degree to figure out which one is faster and longer lasting.
Undying
I dont think it will. AMD will probably release Navi32 with 16gb vram to compete in this segment. I bet there will be leaks any day now.
mikeysg
I'm willing to bet that that was what RTX 3060 Ti(2022)/3070(2020)/3070 Ti(2021) owners were thinking that when they'd gotten their cards back then, most hard done were those who'd gotten the RTX 3060 Ti which was launched last year.
I think they're finding it a hard pill to swallow that some games require them to run them at low texture + RT, or high texture without RT....simply because their cards do NOT have enough VRAM. Nobody is arguing that the RTX 4070 Ti isn't a powerful card, it is, but having just 12GB VRAM buffer is a similar dick move by nVidia to limit its usefulness for high res and max ingame setting.
The way things are going, AMD's RX 7800 XT would most likely have 16GB VRAM, be faster at rasterize gaming, decent enough RT performance, but would prolly age better than the RTX 4070 Ti like the RX 6700 XT/6750XT/6800 have done against the RTX 3060 Ti/3070/3070 Ti.
Kaarme
Just restore your system from a backup image. Were you born yesterday?
TheDeeGee
I see a lot of AMD users bashing, they surely have a great day even though it's very sad.
umeng2002
We all know a 4070 Super with 14 GB of VRAM is coming this fall...
Krizby
haha, yeah sure, I will keep that in mind when buying AMD 😀, haven't had any driver that could brick Win in 25 years building PCs LOL
TheDeeGee
Doubt it, 3060 and 3060 Ti had a huge gap as well, nothing was ever released to fill that gap.
