Pretty wild that theyøre including fixes for games that are more than 12 years old: Supreme Command:Forged Alliance/Supreme Commander 2

Dragam1337:

Where did i write that nvidia gimps performance of old hardware with new drivers? That's right, i didn't...

Yeah, you did. "Well it's common knowledge that new nvidia drivers are only made for the newest gen, even if older gens officially support it, they either dont gain anything from it, or as you say, lose performance." There is no performance loss. If there is its in the range of unnoticeable values like 1-2 fps and that is contributed by a myriad of factors that change on your system in a span of couple gpu generations. Your windows isnt the same nor is your antivirus nor that service based app you installed thats now sitting in your tray 24/7, its not just the driver. Yes, they stop optimizing for the older gens, thats expected but new drivers on older gen do not lose you any performance. Not gaining isnt losing.

Jas39Grippen:

Don't think they are "gimping" them, as that would cause an uproar, i think they are putting "more effort" into improving newer 11th and 12th gen and doing "not as much" in regards to the 10th series...so in a round about way....err...GIMPING them.

Lol, you are both pretty sore. While nvidia (or any corp really) certainly aint a saint and does shitload of shady practices you cant say that they are gimping something by not improving it to perfection. Drivers get optimized during a gpu lifetime and pretty soon you get a lot of diminishing returns. Sure, software can actually be optimized pretty much to oblivion but for an already decently optimized software to get even more optimized you need long and tedious work for very little gain which ultimately doesnt pay off. Especially when you are always working on the next generation and the time marches on. Its like if someone told you that you could refresh your 1080Ti and by doing so its gonna run 5% better than it ever did but its also going to cost 1000$, would you do it? Ofc not, youd go out and buy a new card thats already 50% better and costs the same. Same thing with nvidia, why would they spend countless hours squeezing that last 5% from a 4yr old 1080Ti when they have 2 gens after that?

mackintosh:

There's a very simple way to test this, and it's one I've been using for a long time now every time I feel there are driver shenanigans at play - install older drivers, run benchmark, compare results. That's all there is to it. I have a driver repository going back over a decade for that exact reason. Anyone need 185.85?

Your OCD doesnt make you a truthsayer lol. There is simply no reason to have a decade old repository of old driver results. The benchmark programs aint the same in that timespan, windows isnt same, whole other subsystems, etc. You are reaaaly wasting some serious time obsessing over that and not even doing it right. If you wanna be that pedantic you have to control so many things, even your input voltage to your PSU to check for the electrical noise lol. I suggest you get another hobby other than collecting useless driver data.

PPC:

Yeah, you did. "Well it's common knowledge that new nvidia drivers are only made for the newest gen, even if older gens officially support it, they either dont gain anything from it, or as you say, lose performance." There is no performance loss. If there is its in the range of unnoticeable values like 1-2 fps and that is contributed by a myriad of factors that change on your system in a span of couple gpu generations. Your windows isnt the same nor is your antivirus nor that service based app you installed thats now sitting in your tray 24/7, its not just the driver. Yes, they stop optimizing for the older gens, thats expected but new drivers on older gen do not lose you any performance. Not gaining isnt losing. Lol, you are both pretty sore. While nvidia (or any corp really) certainly aint a saint and does shitload of shady practices you cant say that they are gimping something by not improving it to perfection. Drivers get optimized during a gpu lifetime and pretty soon you get a lot of diminishing returns. Sure, software can actually be optimized pretty much to oblivion but for an already decently optimized software to get even more optimized you need long and tedious work for very little gain which ultimately doesnt pay off. Especially when you are always working on the next generation and the time marches on. Its like if someone told you that you could refresh your 1080Ti and by doing so its gonna run 5% better than it ever did but its also going to cost 1000$, would you do it? Ofc not, youd go out and buy a new card thats already 50% better and costs the same. Same thing with nvidia, why would they spend countless hours squeezing that last 5% from a 4yr old 1080Ti when they have 2 gens after that? Your OCD doesnt make you a truthsayer lol. There is simply no reason to have a decade old repository of old driver results. The benchmark programs aint the same in that timespan, windows isnt same, whole other subsystems, etc. You are reaaaly wasting some serious time obsessing over that and not even doing it right. If you wanna be that pedantic you have to control so many things, even your input voltage to your PSU to check for the electrical noise lol. I suggest you get another hobby other than collecting useless driver data.

Did your mother drop you repeatedly on your head as a child? In what world does performance loss equal intentional gimping of a product... read what i wrote again... still don't understand it, then read it again.

Wow, such maturity, what would be an appropriate response? A bit about your dad beating you daily so you are full of anger hence these kind of replays? Damn dude, i know its the internet but you seriously need to chill a bit.

reports of performance regression tend to affect specific systems with specific considerations and need to be profiled properly for nvidia to act on them.

Is standard drivers will come out(not DCH)? Last one have been released 20 sept! Or I can install panel separately? Help please

Listum:

Is standard drivers will come out(not DCH)?

No. Never again. DCH its the same.