Forthcoming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti and RTX 4060 Boast 8GB Memory Standard

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Releasing a 8Gb graphics card in 2023 is cringeworthy. Add ontop of that a tini tiny 128-bit memory bus and a massive price, then you got NGreedia at it`s best. shiting on their consumers. in reality the 4060 -60 ti is a 4050-50ti when it comes to the silicone die size. the 4070 is a 4060 rtx and so on.
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Jcegeland:

Releasing a 8Gb graphics card in 2023 is cringeworthy. Add ontop of that a tini tiny 128-bit memory bus and a massive price, then you got NGreedia at it`s best. shiting on their consumers. in reality the 4060 -60 ti is a 4050-50ti when it comes to the silicone die size. the 4070 is a 4060 rtx and so on.
How it performs at 1080P is far more important than its tech specs. On paper the 7900 series look amazing, in reality not so.
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should be 10GB at minimum :/
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LOL "BOAST" Anyway... its good. They are DOA. So if AMD releases some low range 10/12+gb card, it can take back some market share, which will be good for everyone. Also this is possibly the reason we saw AMD skipping the midrange and going for low range. It will be a check mate and well played if done so.
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Makes no sense releasing 8gb cards at this point at these prices. Nvidia knows the current state of pc games market and its clearly and issue but they dont care. Cards are doa.
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Undying:

Cards are doa.
They are DOA at $400-$500 anyway, but imagine how DOA they would be if NAVI33 is sold at $250-$350, replacement price for RX 6600 / 6600 XT, and higher performance. (still, mid-low end settings for games due to smaller memory buffer)
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Everything seems to be DOA these days, especially if it concerns AMD users. If anything is DOA it's the comment section.
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This is not at all surprising.
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They are just laptop GPUs with laptop memory architecture slapped on a desktop PCB+cooling. Chinese manufacturers have been selling such unofficial Nvidia solutions for a while, and now Nvidia itself decided to copy the scheme.
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Intel might actually have a shot at winning the low end market
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I honestly don't bother buying a 8GB card at the right price, cause I don't feel bad by playing at high, medium or even low settings in some cases (1080p screen here), so 8GB is more than enough. Please, make it x16 PCIe, AV1 encode/decode and not forget the right price. I can wait forever.:D
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TheDeeGee:

Everything seems to be DOA these days, especially if it concerns AMD users. If anything is DOA it's the comment section.
Considering more half of RDNA2 owners don't have to worry about vram issues, we can laugh at it. A bunch of my Nvidia friends are pissed at Nvidia with this nonsense. My best friend just sold his 3070 to buy a 6950xt. So Yea, anything 8gb vram from Ngreedia is DOA. We don't care about your fanboy feelings here.
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Going ignore these topics from now on, too many twats on this forum.
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Agonist:

Considering more half of RDNA2 owners don't have to worry about vram issues, we can laugh at it. A bunch of my Nvidia friends are pissed at Nvidia with this nonsense. My best friend just sold his 3070 to buy a 6950xt. So Yea, anything 8gb vram from Ngreedia is DOA. We don't care about your fanboy feelings here.
Its AMD pushing a vram agenda. Vram is not the issue you fool. They are trying to push people to console, since thats where they make their money.
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TimmyP:

Its AMD pushing a vram agenda. Vram is not the issue you fool. They are trying to push people to console, since thats where they make their money.
Amd isnt forcing developers all around the world to increase the vram req. It just happen to amd gpus have more vram at the worst possible time while nvidia is lacking.
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"A bunch of my Nvidia friends are pissed at Nvidia with this nonsense." - count me in, that 3080 is just dying because of VRAM "too many twats on this forum." - completely agree with you, so it would be nice, if you stopped coming around TheDeeGee "Vram is not the issue you fool" - when you have absolutely no arguments and all you can do is call ppl names TimmyP
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I don't understand why they keep shrinking the bus width, 192 was already too small for my liking and now they have put the 60 series on 128......... wtf
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are we sure this thing will match 3060ti let alone 3070., more over priced crap in coming so for 4000 series is joke price wise. DLSS 3 or well just FG is not sell point for lot people
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KissSh0t:

I don't understand why they keep shrinking the bus width, 192 was already too small for my liking and now they have put the 60 series on 128......... wtf
makes the card cheaper to manufacture, fewer memory chips and less complicated pcb. going as expected
user1:

if we do the basic calculation rx 580 with 8gbps gddr5 memory we have (2ghz real frequency) x(4 ,quad data rate) x (256bit bus) /8 = 256GB/s for 18Gbps gddr6 on a 256bit bus (4.5ghz real frequency)x(4 ,quad data rate)x(256bit bus) /8 = 576 GB/s for 18Gbps gddr6 on a 384bit bus (like a titan Xp) (4.5ghz)x(4)x(384)/8 = 864GB/s for hbm 2 2.4gbps on 2 stacks (feasibly a vega 64 card could be equiped with this) (1.2ghz real frequency)x ( 2 ,double data rate) x (2048 bit bus) /8 = 614GB/s for hbm2 on 4 stacks (vega 20 machine learning gpu) (1228.8gb/s) so i'd say that the gddr6 has an advantage if its cheaper than hbm2 particularly in the consumer range of products, since its offers similar bandwidth and doesn't need an interposer. however i will say once you go past a 384bit bus things get more expensive, and require alot more space than a similar hbm2 solution, hbm is still superior interm of its charateristics (power consumption (pretty sure), space efficency, memory density ect) but its cost is the inhibiting factor what i would expect to see from gddr6 is the return of 64 bit and 128bit bus gpus to mainstream, since the bandwidth provided will actually be enough to be useful, will either make cards cheaper , or more profitable .
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user1:

makes the card cheaper to manufacture, fewer memory chips and less complicated pcb. going as expected
So it turned out with them being cheaper to make but more expensive to purchase... Less for more... makes sense.