fantaskarsef:

The problem, like with Nvidia's making two separate lines of cards, is that the chips themselves are still the same amount. Nvidia and AMD are probably already buying every slot and capacity to fabricate they can get and / or afford. To just pick a number, imagine chip foundries working for AMD and Nvidia combined would produce the symbolic number of 10.000chips and later cards, which all are capable of gaming. Then, you suddenly say 5.000 cards are mining cards, and 5.000 are gaming cards as distinct product lines (because manufacturers can't fab more total chips), gaming cards are limited to 5.000 units only, and miners will still buy every card they get. But just in theory, the supply for gamers is limited to only 5.000 cards. So you see, that's simply not helping anybody besides manufacturers, as they save on display connectors and board components for virtually the same selling price. What will probably come out of Nvidia's separate mining line? Less RTX / GTX cards manufactured. And that's certainly 100% not helping gamers get cards. And the second somebody fabricates really fancy crypto mining optimized for AMD cards, the very same thing will happen with AMD cards and prices as well. I'd bet money on that.

I cant agree separated GFX cards lines does not help the games - IF THE 50% cards were gaming only (as u suggest) that would mean 50% MORE cards for gamers. As it is now, Id say 5% goes to gamers but with spiked prices. Yes, 50% would still not be enough, but it still would be night and day difference. And the prices of the gaming cards would not be AS MUCH spiked by the mining demand. Sure, it would not cover the demand, so the price would be higher, but NOT that much. Now the price of cards is strictly related to the price of crypto - if you can pay your card in lets say 3 months mining, you dont care if it costs 4k euro, because in 6 months you have a free cards an 4k euro in a pocket. For the gamer tho, the situation is very different and indeed dire, when his wallet competes in this scenario 😏 PS: Banning crypto is not the solution and its not even possible to be honest. And thats good IMO. I dont want this new decentralized money to be banned. Nobody financially literate should want that... money as it is now is a bad joke, papers which are being "printed" (printing is a euphemism - they are created in a computers with one click - BAM!!! 2 trilion USD!!! There goes your savings) - this USA insanity which is happening right now will be a disater for all of us :/

that much money and for just 12gb of vRAM, disgusting

RED.Misfit:

How many times before we reach MSRP ? or something around it like 1100$ for custom ? Way to long probably.

Little by little, there was 5 units in stock of RX 6700XT from Asrock, they were at normal price (575,53 Euro)... but just 5 units.

HybOj:

PS: Banning crypto is not the solution and its not even possible to be honest. And thats good IMO. I dont want this new decentralized money to be banned. Nobody financially literate should want that... money as it is now is a bad joke, papers which are being "printed" (printing is a euphemism - they are created in a computers with one click - BAM!!! 2 trilion USD!!! There goes your savings) - this USA insanity which is happening right now will be a disater for all of us :/

Banning would be as stupid as actual situation... But it really need a regulation, right now crypto currency is far far away from your idealistic description... The problem is that it create poor people (and more when it will fall... and it will fall again), limitate innovation and production all around the world due to bad use of ressources, make price rise while people earn less... and so and so and so more. The problem is indeed the abusing greedy people, and a regulation could solve this.

guru3d top of google news tech section here in uk. https://i.imgur.com/kukZffG.png

HybOj:

Dont blame crypto for this. Blame the manufacturers. They did not make 2 separate lines of GFX cards since 2017 RUN! And dont hate on Bitcoin, that stuff will save everybodys azz. To the guy thinking goverment restrictions Turkey style will solve the "issue" - you are kind of utterly lost. Only thing it created was a spike of price of bitcoin there. Good luck saving any money in cash with this kind of inflation! Maybe you are the "lucky" one and u live in a country with single digits inflation, but there are countless countries where this is not the case and rest assured your country will join the list sooner than later. If you want your money to be eaten alive, enjoy, but for those who do not, theres alternative. And you cant stop this revolution, nobody cares about the gamers and their cards. Deal with it. Fun comes 2nd after business. Dont hate on the messenger (BTC) but on the msg (no dedicated gaming and mining cards) - besides. BTC is not mined on cards, so that BS claim about Turkey is just twice as ridiculous if thats even possible. EDIT: Im NOT a miner... I have my trusty old GTX970.. which I wanted to upgrade same as you. Just compared to some ppl here, Im not crying with my 1080ti in my PC

I want some of whatever the hell you have been smoking.

Undying:

Yeah its cheaper this days to have a girlfriend then being a gamer. 😀

Until they want to get married, it's at that point you get back into gaming to save money xD haha

Here is how Nvidia has been BSing all day. Despite the low availability and huge demand, they allowed most of the gaming cards to be sold to miners at normal prices, then they "decreased" the mining performance so that we gamers can actually buy one but at an almost 50% price increase. How BS is that lol?

Not excited about this card at all and that's only because, right now, I still cannot buy a GTX 3080 here in the UK for the MRSP some seven plus months after that card launched so the chances of getting this one any time in 2021 is going to be near to zero. Scalpers and the chip shortages are certainly not helping but, yeah, I don't think 2021 is going to be a good year to upgrade my PC. My other option would have been to forget about upgrading my PC and just get an Xbox Series X instead for the cross platform titles like Forza and Halo but that is also impossible to get hold of.

Darren Hodgson:

Not excited about this card at all and that's only because, right now, I still cannot buy a GTX 3080 here in the UK for the MRSP some seven plus months after that card launched so the chances of getting this one any time in 2021 is going to be near to zero. Scalpers and the chip shortages are certainly not helping but, yeah, I don't think 2021 is going to be a good year to upgrade my PC. My other option would have been to forget about upgrading my PC and just get an Xbox Series X instead for the cross platform titles like Forza and Halo but that is also impossible to get hold of.

2021 is already 10x worse than 2020 in just about every way.

rl66:

Banning would be as stupid as actual situation... But it really need a regulation, right now crypto currency is far far away from your idealistic description... The problem is that it create poor people (and more when it will fall... and it will fall again), limitate innovation and production all around the world due to bad use of ressources, make price rise while people earn less... and so and so and so more. The problem is indeed the abusing greedy people, and a regulation could solve this.

They are banning petrol cars because of the damage they do to the environment despite the hugely powerful oil lobby, how much money it makes governments, and how much the general public love their ICE cars. Can't see why they won't ban crypto which is very damaging to the environment, has practically no lobbying power, makes governments no money, and is hated by everyone but the miners.

Unless there are... - a million of these cards in stock - completely mining resistant - dont have to refresh product page for availability - selling at MSRP then wont even bother.

Time to replace my 1080Ti! Now i only need to win the lottery...

Dont worry you can't get one.

EngEd:

Here is how Nvidia has been BSing all day. Despite the low availability and huge demand, they allowed most of the gaming cards to be sold to miners at normal prices, then they "decreased" the mining performance so that we gamers can actually buy one but at an almost 50% price increase. How BS is that lol?

This is such a dumb take on the situation lol

Dribble:

They are banning petrol cars because of the damage they do to the environment despite the hugely powerful oil lobby, how much money it makes governments, and how much the general public love their ICE cars. Can't see why they won't ban crypto which is very damaging to the environment, has practically no lobbying power, makes governments no money, and is hated by everyone but the miners.

Because crypto curency is the emerged part of the iceberg, and we need the underwater part, and we don't have anything to replace it...

HybOj:

Dont blame crypto for this. Blame the manufacturers. They did not make 2 separate lines of GFX cards since 2017 RUN! And dont hate on Bitcoin, that stuff will save everybodys azz. To the guy thinking goverment restrictions Turkey style will solve the "issue" - you are kind of utterly lost. Only thing it created was a spike of price of bitcoin there. Good luck saving any money in cash with this kind of inflation! Maybe you are the "lucky" one and u live in a country with single digits inflation, but there are countless countries where this is not the case and rest assured your country will join the list sooner than later. If you want your money to be eaten alive, enjoy, but for those who do not, theres alternative. And you cant stop this revolution, nobody cares about the gamers and their cards. Deal with it. Fun comes 2nd after business. Dont hate on the messenger (BTC) but on the msg (no dedicated gaming and mining cards) - besides. BTC is not mined on cards, so that BS claim about Turkey is just twice as ridiculous if thats even possible. EDIT: Im NOT a miner... I have my trusty old GTX970.. which I wanted to upgrade same as you. Just compared to some ppl here, Im not crying with my 1080ti in my PC

stfu if it wasn't for miners we'd be paying £800 for an rtx 3090 right now.

Whitey:

stfu if it wasn't for miners we'd be paying £800 for an rtx 3090 right now.

I'm a miner and gamer, i see no issue with this. Manufacturers sending warehouse scale mining farms hundreds of cards at a time is the problem, not folks like me getting 24/7 use outta my card i worked hard to get. Agree?

DannyD:

I'm a miner and gamer, i see no issue with this. Manufacturers sending warehouse scale mining farms hundreds of cards at a time is the problem, not folks like me getting 24/7 use outta my card i worked hard to get. Agree?

how bout if you do mine you do dont antagonize people here with that fact and trying to make things worse. do what you want with card but dont come here and advertise your are mining and claim your not part of problem. Fact stand if wasnt for mining crap GPU cost would not so stupid and Scalping would not be that bad. Hilbert and mod seriously need to make Mining only sections and moderate it to keep all that stuff in that sections so there less hostility over it cause some people like to come here advertise they are doing and how there is no issue cause of mining. Hostility over this is only gona get worse and people mining that come here and say there is no issue... and ask for help at same time just making thing worse.

tsunami231:

how bout if you do mine you do dont antagonize people here with that fact and trying to make things worse. do what you want with card but dont come here and advertise your are mining and part of problem Fact stand if wasnt for mining crap GPU cost would not so stupid Hilbert and mod seriously need to make Mining only sections and moderate it to keep all that stuff in that sections so there less hostilite over it cause some people like to come here advertise they are doing and how there is no issue cause of mining.

how about who gives a fuck? Not my fault there's no gpus, i was responding to a mining comment ffs.