EK shows De-Lidded Ivy Bridge CPU Cooling Solution
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Chillin
Is there even a market for such a product?
SLI-756
This will fill the gap a removed IHS leaves, letting you sit the cooler on the cpu die, not bad but the tests are in already with direct die mounting and it's only 1 - 3C better than if you had left the IHS in place (after de-lidding ), especially if the IHS has been lapped.
sverek
Or just buy Sandy Bridge...
SLI-756
Meh, x8 x8 on a gen2 mobo is pants, <2133 ram is pants too.
PhazeDelta1
Intel is dumb. Why not just solder the IHS on?
Denial
They obviously had a reason for doing it as they would have to retool to make it happen. Regardless the TIM isn't the problem, it's the gap. Haswell will probably not be soldered but they fixed the heat problems supposedly.
vbetts
Moderator
If intel continues this trend then there will be a market created for it.
Vtech
Probably is Intel just saying, "Hey guys if you want to over-clock our processors feel free to void the warranty first".
Neo Cyrus
Most likely to intentionally hinder overclockers while saving a penny at the same time.
Intel have no competition, the high end CPU market is a monopoly, they can do whatever they want.
Mufflore
It makes no sense for Intel to hinder overclocking in this way unless they have another motive and this is the only way to achieve it.
If they were to deliberately hinder overclocking for the sake of it, it would surely be done in a way that keeps the chips from harm, rather than a way that causes harm.
Otherwise what is the point?
Its possible that they have restricted overclocking, not to save the chips, but to prevent their performance being so high that future generations have no value.
But rather than inflame the enthusiast crowd with the lock of a bus, they chose to make it look like an insurmountable problem, which turned out not to be so.
They didnt do enough to restrict performance though, as the next gen truly isnt worth the upgrade from even Sandybridge for most.
Vtech
And they have a good reason, is the more expensive LGA 2011 platform, they don't want the lower platform interfere with the more expensive. Is the same in the netbook's market, they don't allow vendors to put more than 1GB of Ram otherwise they sell then the chips at a higher price, in this case they don´t want netbooks to compete in the same market of the cheapest notebooks.
I don't believe they do this inadvertently, they have plenty of testing of course they know the chips doesn't have the best cooling solution.
Neo Cyrus
Well imagine how much worse it would be for them if everyone could squeeze another 300-700MHz out of their Ivy Bridge chips.
I just hope Haswell doesn't have the same BS cheapassery, I've waited for so long there isn't much sense in upgrading to anything other than Haswell at this point.
Mufflore
Yeah, that was part of what I was saying.
They at least managed to prevent that unless you are prepared to de-lid your chip.
From what I have read, the first releases of Haswell at least, arent a lot quicker than IB.
Without looking them up, they are about as fast again as IB was to SB.
I just wouldnt upgrade unless it really is necessary.
Aye
Neo Cyrus
It isn't really necessary, upgrading is a matter of want rather than need, lol.
I want much better single threaded performance, a W3530 is a first gen i7, Nehalem/Bloomfield/whatever. A Haswell chip will offer a significant clock for clock improvement over this thing.
