I'm most surprised to read this as a product launch since I've been having these on my desk since 3 november 2017. I chose these after a long search for the ultimate computer desktop speakers that would come as close to audiophile as possible. After using them for over half a year now I can say with confidence they are simply amazing with a perfect balance and presence of both bass, mid and treble. They easily blow every famous desktop pc speaker set away in terms of sound and build quality. There's no going back to anything less than this standard once you've had it

I want more 2.0 speakers. This subwoofer thing is great for home theater but not for computer desktop speakers where there is limited space and you sit closer to the speakers.

Netherwind:

I want more 2.0 speakers. This subwoofer thing is great for home theater but not for computer desktop speakers where there is limited space and you sit closer to the speakers.

You can try studio monitors.

Corbus:

You need studio monitors.

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Netherwind:

I want more 2.0 speakers. This subwoofer thing is great for home theater but not for computer desktop speakers where there is limited space and you sit closer to the speakers.

Pick some Magnat Stereo or Monitors 😀 Here Magnat Museum -> https://magnathifimuseum.wordpress.com/all-ribbon-ribbon-mig-zero-sigma-msp/ And Magnat Today -> https://www.magnat.de/en/

Andy Vanderbeken:

I'm most surprised to read this as a product launch since I've been having these on my desk since 3 november 2017. I chose these after a long search for the ultimate computer desktop speakers that would come as close to audiophile as possible. After using them for over half a year now I can say with confidence they are simply amazing with a perfect balance and presence of both bass, mid and treble. They easily blow every famous desktop pc speaker set away in terms of sound and build quality. There's no going back to anything less than this standard once you've had it

Maybe all these new Edifier announcements of speakers already in the market for a time is just marketing getting up to date, availability and location reasons.

Netherwind:

I want more 2.0 speakers. This subwoofer thing is great for home theater but not for computer desktop speakers where there is limited space and you sit closer to the speakers.

?! I thought that was precisely the idea of 2.1 speakers: small satellites that you could put near you on your space lacking desktop and a sub that you can put away somewhere on the floor for not losing low end while 2.0 speakers with the same low end are too big to put on your desktop...

Corbus:

You can try studio monitors.

Different purpose. And now too many brands are using the the term "studio monitors" for speakers that are not really suited for that. Real ones are usually too expensive and without the features of proper computer "HiFi" (?) speakers.

Corbus:

You can try studio monitors.

Noisiv:

EDITED: spelling 😀

Agreed recently picked up some Dynaudio Xeo 4's for my pc and wow does it sound just amazing

Netherwind:

I want more 2.0 speakers.

They make loads of them. I have the S1000DB and they sound excellent. Might be still too big for some desktops though. But it's not hard to find very decent 2.0 speakers from any brand, really. Klipsch also make some very, very good ones. (Edit: stay far away from Bose.)

Corbus:

You can try studio monitors.

OnnA:

Pick some Magnat Stereo or Monitors 😀 Here Magnat Museum -> https://magnathifimuseum.wordpress.com/all-ribbon-ribbon-mig-zero-sigma-msp/ And Magnat Today -> https://www.magnat.de/en/

RealNC:

They make loads of them. I have the S1000DB and they sound excellent. Might be still too big for some desktops though. But it's not hard to find very decent 2.0 speakers from any brand, really. Klipsch also make some very, very good ones. (Edit: stay far away from Bose.)

I'm not made of money damnit 😉 You're talking about 200$+ speakers and I was thinking about 60$ speakers like the excellent Creative T20 🙂 Loud enough, bass integrated, sounds decent enough for the price. Unfortunately hard to find and I think the newer versions have some kind of ridiculous stand-by mode that enables the speaker when sound is played, unfortunately the reaction time is bad and you often miss 1 second of the sound (that's what I've read). Funny thing is that this now happens to my monitor speakers (it didn't before)

Fergutor:

?! I thought that was precisely the idea of 2.1 speakers: small satellites that you could put near you on your space lacking desktop and a sub that you can put away somewhere on the floor for not losing low end while 2.0 speakers with the same low end are too big to put on your desktop...

I've never tried an expensive 2.1 system, just Creative stuff back in the days but I always remember that the bass was too loud and the satellites were too weak making it an overall bad experience due to excessive amounts of bass which I personally don't like.

But if wanna Budget + Quality then Amazon or Ebay is Your Best friend 😀 Just saying... You can find All Ribon Legendary Magnat for 90-120€ (Yes it's possible)

RealNC:

They make loads of them. I have the S1000DB and they sound excellent. Might be still too big for some desktops though. But it's not hard to find very decent 2.0 speakers from any brand, really. Klipsch also make some very, very good ones. (Edit: stay far away from Bose.)

Yeah I just bought a pair of Klipsch R-15PMs and they sound awesome. They are a little on the large size but you could always go with the 14s to save some space.

Netherwind:

I've never tried an expensive 2.1 system, just Creative stuff back in the days but I always remember that the bass was too loud and the satellites were too weak making it an overall bad experience due to excessive amounts of bass which I personally don't like.

I only responded to the space subject. Sound quality is another matter. And I never liked 2.1 either, in real listening and the theory. Now I know newer ones are way better, like this ones, but the usual 2.1 is still a very bad idea to me. Not only the bad balance as you say which is the most notable thing, but the time misalignment, the frequency "crowding" in the sub due to smal satellites, and the phase conflict in all those frecuencies. With usual 2.0 that you add a sub later is or could be different as you have less frequencies thrown into the sub, but the other problems will persist. But there is a lot in 2.0 to choose, surely there could be a lot more variety of types, that is lacking for sure, but there are a lot of usual 2.0 anyway. Now for $60 as you want you either find pasive ones or actives of not known brands. From Edifier there is the R980T at $69 in Amazon and they have other small cheap ones, like the R1280T ($79 refurbished), the R1000T, the R1010T and others. (Edifier should hire me haha). But you would lack the low end under pfff around 60hz.

Fergutor:

I only responded to the space subject. Sound quality is another matter. And I never liked 2.1 either, in real listening and the theory. Now I know newer ones are way better, like this ones, but the usual 2.1 is still a very bad idea to me. Not only the bad balance as you say which is the most notable thing, but the time misalignment, the frequency "crowding" in the sub due to smal satellites, and the phase conflict in all those frecuencies. With usual 2.0 that you add a sub later is or could be different as you have less frequencies thrown into the sub, but the other problems will persist.

With good subs there is a phase control option to correct any such issue. Still some speakers integrate better than others with subs. Computer speakers imo fare badly in this regard. Decent bookshelves with hefty low end (ie down to 55-60hz) do a far better job of integrating with subs as you can set the crossover lower on the sub. The lower the crossover (ie, 60hz), the less directional the bass is and the more seamless the integration with the speakers.

alanm:

With good subs there is a phase control option to correct any such issue.

No, I mean that in both channels, different info is stored, more and less depending on the song, the mixing, the recording, the instruments, the style, etc, etc, but that's how it is, and happens that with one sub you throw high energy low frequency sounds with highly possibly conflicting phases for example an instrument recorded live has a phase on the left and the sound bouncing the inverse on the right. Look at this: http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb464/Fergutor/Fotos General/GiveUpTheHalfling-SPECTRUM.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb464/Fergutor/Fotos General/GiveUpTheHalfling-SCOPE.jpg Weirdly it's a song from LOTR or The Hobbit, but, from the music CDs. See how in the lowest end is exactly the opposite: how do you think 1 sub will reproduce that? Then there is the "time alignment" (a thing they also call, wrongly in my ignorant opinion, "phase alignment"), where a sound gets to your ears later than it should. A thing you can't control with the phace control...as far as I know, and I don't know much. So, no 1 sub in my systems!! 😡 Only stereo subs.

alanm:

Still some speakers integrate better than others with subs. Computer speakers imo fare badly in this regard. Decent bookshelves with hefty low end (ie down to 55-60hz) do a far better job of integrating with subs as you can set the crossover lower on the sub.

Yes that's exaclty what I meant with: "With usual 2.0 that you add a sub later is or could be different as you have less frequencies thrown into the sub" etc.

alanm:

The lower the crossover (ie, 60hz), the less directional the bass is and the more seamless the integration with the speakers.

Maybe is less directional, maybe, but that's something irrelevant in the time misalignment issue as in the phase conflict issue. In fact for the first issue should be a worsening factor as because that seamlessness, that apparent easiness makes one put it far away in really bad places misaligning it even more. In theory, my opinion, based on my logic with a lot of ignorance 😳. I'd love 1 sub being enough, but it isn't. I mean just thinking in for example buying an Edifier R1800DB or A100 or similar and use the seemingly so convenient sub out to fill what's missing in the lowest end, or the same one of those small stereo systems like the Yamaha CRX470D or Onkyo CSN575 or big receivers that usually have only 1 dedicated sub out, always seems like a good idea, but then I think on those problems and it's just inappropiate...