Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Patch #1
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robintson
Fixed crashes caused by third-party programs interfering with the game.
Fixed crash that occurred after viewing the intro videos.
Fixed issue that could cause a crash at the end of the Prague intro scene.
Fixed mouse invert setting not being displayed correctly in the options menu.
From four fixes three are fixes for crashes caused by all mighty "DeNuevo" sh** and the PC game cost is only "50 EUR" on Steam!
ScoobyDooby
I really miss the days where people would be pissed off that games would require a day #1 patch in order to fix things that should never need to be fixed at a gametime release.
Seriously. How tolerant gamers have become of these tactics.. pre-ordering, willing to pay ahead of time, and pay full price only to get the game and have it crash, misperform, run poorly on high end hardware, shove microtransactions in your face.
My old-school gaming roots cringe so bad when I think of this sh*t.
primetime^
I miss the days when people didn't whine about EVERYTHING! From what i hear most are really enjoying this game! I will buy it in do time as well!:)
george1976
ScoobyDooby
PrMinisterGR
Games are also much more complicated affairs these days.
primetime^
Aura89
ScoobyDooby
^ What I really love about your diatribe is that you wanna lecture me on game development and how much more complex games are, and yet I'm typing this to you right now from a games studio that I work at LOL.
Trust me when I say, I know first hand what it takes to develop a game. I have also been a PC gamer for bordering 20 years.
Sure, games these days are more complex.. you know what else though? The engines, expertise, and knowledge and overall capabilities to make these games has also increased tenfold. You act as if because the game is more complex, it somehow negates any responsibility on the part of the developer to ensure functionality.
Sorry, that's not good enough. Vehicles these days are also more complex. Airlines, also more complex. Do you also give them the same leeway for their products to be delivered to a low level of testing? There is an expectation of functionality upon release.. rushing out games before they are completed only to be patched later is a cancer on this industry.
Deus Ex is certainly not alone in this department, but time and time again people are fooled into thinking they will get a working game on release. the only two games that I've played in recent memory that worked largely without issue on their first day were Witcher 3 and Doom. I'm sure there are others, but as I have said repeatedly, most games are now expected to not work on release day.
The expectation that you're not buying a fully working game, and the acceptance of such is insane imo.
If you wanna make excuses for the game industry that is fine. Lord knows they have a tough job trying to get games working on different types of devices and setups. But that is the job they signed up for. If they didn't want to do that to the level that should be expected, they should just release for console and be done with it.
If you wanna develop a game and sell it for the PC platform, make it work. Patching it week after week post release has become so commonplace that people just shrug and say "well that's just how it is I guess" and throw $70 at the game 6 months before its released.
Gimme a break.
Also, if games were more expensive but came largely trouble free, I would absolutely be willing to pay more $. People are spending thousands of dollars on their rigs, sli setups, and get either sli not working with a game, working poorly, low framerates/terrible scaling, or on the odd chance, it works great.. unless you have gsync, then its again a crapshoot whether it works or not.
But its okay I guess.. Its complex, so we should just suck it up. Great position to take.
Absolute nonsense. Way to make up your own argument. If you need to come at me with this strawman argument, I can't be bothered to reply further.
SavagePotato
KissSh0t
I miss buying games on DVD xD
kbx1
All todays AAA titles are more complex than HL2 or Crysis? I dont belive it. Plus, you must take into account that both were developed and sell only on pc market originally and I dont recall develpers whining about low profit. While new Deus ex is being sold over all available platforms, meaning sales volume is much much higher. Im far from calling companies greedy but ask yourself question why CDPR can made and sell much much bigger and complex game at probably lower price, without denuevo, with free dlc and at the end they are more than happy with the profit.
bhill63
Consoles VS. PC Continued......
Consoles = plug and play...PC gaming = hobby. The fun "back in the day" was to configure your PC to run a new AAA game with smooth frame rates. People complaining about Deus Ex performance are not true PC gamers but more of entitled kids. IF you just want to play the game, get a console. IF you want to play the game AND tweak your PC hardward to run 101 efficient, play it on a PC. And there is the old argument that Developers cannot test on every configurable PC variable the is out there. Consoles are only test on two. We PC gamers have always been the "true Beta testers".......
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Embra
So... how does the patch work?
Loophole35
ScoobyDooby
Glad that there are some that agree with me. I think most of us that have been gamers for a long time have watched this take shape over the years.
I just have a hard time standing idle, watching people get suckered over and over, filling forums with complaints, only to turn around and pre-order and get suckered again.. to the point of actually defending their purchases even though they are paying for incomplete products.
SeRiToNiN
PrMinisterGR
almost triple the size of the Quake 3 code. Was it because the programmers were masochists? I don't think so.
That's the example of a bad game. They were common in the old days too. I don't even want to remember the mess of the Windows 9x days, where the system itself wasn't stable. I usually wait for at least six months for most games. There are so many good games out now, so there are always games I have to finish, so I'm never in a hurry and I always get the "best" version.
No. Hardware is designed with specific things in mind when made. Sometimes these things happen on the software side (see GCN 1.0, which is 4+ years old at this point), and sometimes you get great immediate performance that is not as suited for software written later (see Kepler). That takes away nothing from the hardware itself.
This is so correct. I wonder how people defend things like season passes on $80 games. We are doing this to ourselves really.
A small thing I want to say also, from personal experience. Try to learn a programming language, preferably C/C++. It will change your whole perspective on games and software.
Modern software with new stuff on, is multiple times more complicated. The Doom 3 code was weedster
I'm with ya Scooby 🙂
this practice should simply not be tolerated.. the problem is that so many people preorder.. or just buy without getting some feedback on day 1
if people voted with their wallets that wouldn't happen..
DLC's themselves aren't a bad thing I feel, as long as you get what you pay for which is getting rare nowadays it seems..