Pro Overclocker Der8auer Feels X299 is a Platform Disaster for Overclocking
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Exascale
I wasnt planning on buying one of these, and i have been telling people to wait for Ryzen and Threadripper. Looks like thats a good recommendation.
Ive always bought and recommended Intel. Looks like thats changing.
Intel is making some rather large mistakes. Knights Landing didnt work out so well compared to Pascal, the Aurora supercomputer has been delayed and the architecture is apparently being re-evaluated, possibly because the larger Knights Hill based machine wont be able to outperform the Volta based Summit and Sierra machines. Knights Mill is now a separate machine learning chip, meanwhile Volta has >7 TFLOPS DP and 120 TFLOPS from the tensor cores for machine learning. Can Intel keep up?
Now we have Skylake X and Skylake-SP looking bad. Looks like X wont perform like is supposed to and SP is going to be massively expensive compared to Epyc, while offering lower memory bandwidth and still being limited to 46bit PA space while AMD had the foresight to give Epyc 48bit PA.
At the moment, it really looks like Intel is falling behind while AMD and Nvidia are moving ahead in all areas.
Ricepudding
I saw this earlier on his own YouTube channel. It feels like intel has rushed this out the gates, and leaving bread crumbs of errors and faultss along the way... the board manufacturers rushed out products and some of them just don't run well past anything other than stock, and with temps getting to 100 degrees even with water cooling and a very small over clock these products just seem out of place 😏
I still don't get why they're using paste instead of solder on these cpus, it's insane. I feel bad for anyone who isn't as informed who purchase these to find all the surprises waiting for them... amd have really stirred up the pot in a massive way, hopefully thread ripper comes up and doesn't have any of these issues
SirDremor
Another Intel-hate story.
Can we maybe consolidate them in a once-in-a-week article?
I don't claim X299 is not without bugs, but I don't have any doubts they will be ironed out pretty soon. I bet - with the release of a big-core-count CPUs, so probbaly by Christmas, it will be all well again.
And Threadripper... apart form a name on a paper, it doesn't exist still.
Exascale
Is it Intel hate? Its legitimately a problem that shouldnt be happening to an established player in this market.
They havent had any competition for years. Thats probably one of the reasons why theyre having issues now, but it shouldnt have resulted in a platform like X299 and their price hike of the entire Xeon lineup.
http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/05/intels-new-scalable-xeon-branding-just-price-increase/
FeDaYin
Maybe now we need aftermarket rgb cables with increased thickness and technology that prevents overheating.
Just $99 for one 8 pin cable.
asturur
Well, i always bought intel, and i will decide what to buy as soon both the competitors are out. But to be hones, the cpu on the x299 need an better cooler to overclock right? If you want to overlock 10 cores you need cool your cpu a way more than a standard air cooler can do.
Why should be different for mosfet and voltage regulators?
If you want to tweak it you should take care of your cooling if the standard is not enough.
Exascale
RooiKreef
My take on this is that I won't be too worried about the vrm heat, as that can be solved with a little fan and a better heat transfer between fets and heatsink. The biggest concern here is the power draw from the 8 pin. I mean 80C on the powerline is ludicrous!!! Maybe put a fan and sink on your cables.... hahaha!
nevcairiel
Dazz
Exascale
Doesnt intel give them the specs to use?
Kinda reminds me of the Geforce 970, which had no reference board. Most 970 AIBs sucked and many didnt even have VRM cooling at all(Asus) and some had ill fitting heatpipes that didnt touch the chip(EVGA).
While the AIB makers made the bad boards, Nvidia could have specified a better design for them to use.
nevcairiel
ivymike10mt
Thats usually happen when they using cooper or iron (lol) instead use some golden in mosfets.
In so expensive mobos, that just never should happen.
Coils also Should be high effiency.
Chipsets loaded with featureres not help temp aswell.
For contrast, my Asus Z270-A is freaking coold after OC.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
found here.
Not without bugs? Mate, it is full of bugs. It isn't a hate story, it's the current facts and what crap editor would I be if I did not report on it? If I can give you an example, on my latest (unpublished just yet) testing with an ASUS board with an all new public and updated BIOS, I actually ABORTED overclocking with water-cooling 1.30 Volts on the CPU at 4600 MHz.
Why, if you wonder? your answer can be Paulo Narciso
KissSh0t
Brit90
He states that you need a motherboard with 2 connectors.
Ok - so, do motherboards with 2 connectors exist?
Can you convert one cable into 2 like they do for Graphic Cards, only this time you want 2 going into 1.
Witcher29
Overclock is instability on the long run anyway, i dont like it, and i never wil like it, unstable mess.
Exascale
weasel