Dell introduces two new full HD gaming LCD displays with a refresh rate of 165Hz / 1ms.
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cucaulay malkin
350eur for a fullhd 165hz monitor is a lot
why the price tag ?
is "AMD FreeSync Premium" worth it ? are they hdr600/1000 certified or something ?
Sylwester Zarębski
"The 537.8-inch model's body is 5.55 meters wide, 189.44 meters deep, 451.63 meters tall, and weighs 7.55 kilograms. Its dimensions are 537.8 meters in width, 189.44 meters depth, 451.63 meters height, and 7.55 kilograms weight." - very light for its dimensions ;-).
Sylencer
So tired of full HD displays. 1440p is pretty much standard now. 1080p, 240hz is as high as it could get for gaming. Considering, 360hz is just an impossible number to reach in most games.
Silva
This news article is one of the worst quality journalism I've seen. But then, its Guru3D so I'm not surprised.
I imagine they are the models G2422HS and G2722HS respectively.
They're just 1080p monitors, for 24'' is ok but for 27'' I'd consider not, for the price I think they're expensive considering my Benq EX2510 costed +/-225€ one year ago.
At least they are true 8bit panels and no FRC trickery is implemented.
cucaulay malkin
this is true,but tbh when I compare my native 1440p shots to dsr they look like crap.
I think 1440p 144hz has been gradually becoming standard between 2015 and now,to the point where we would recommend pairing a 1440p 144hz monitor with a card like 3060.
4K 144 is becoming what 1440p 144 was in 2015-16.The adoption is slower due to gpu prices,but the technology is here.I think anyone lucky enough to get a 3080 or higher should definitely consider 4K high refresh instead of 1440p.
In other words,1440p is on its way out of enthusiast range,and while it offers really decent quality,it's about time for it to be replaced.
IchimA
@Silva so much hate !
TimmyP
1440p couldn't be further from a standard, literally. Its not a perfect integer and will always remain niche. I personally wont touch 1440p ever again, wanted 1080p performance too many times and it looks horrific on a 1440p display, and that cant be fixed.
Venix
Games do not need integer scaling and 1080p movies i watch far away that i could not tell , honestly never had an issue even from close up , if i am honest i have no clue what are you talking about. If anything the main difference i noticed vs 1080p is that things look sharper in gaming and that's all
kakiharaFRS
1) its not journalism it's a copy pasted product announcement, I only wish guru3d would add the mention if it's a VA,IPS,TN panel as they often don't say and VA is trash tier for gaming even if you paid me to play on VA I wouldn't (a fact, after buying a 120hz monitor I completely stopped playing 30fps console games I'd rather read a book than play in bad conditions)
2) 1440p if you check benchmark numbers you would see is the best quality/fps average, you get slightly lower fps but noticeably better PQ while 4K comes with a heavy cost, if you play 1080p on a 1440p monitor it's your mistake you ddidn't have the gpu for it or play older games which will never be fixed
fyi tv upscaling on recent LG oled C-series (B,A usual have a cheaper upscale engine) is very good, in fact as I watched lots of recent 1080p and 4k (web) tv shows most of the time the upscaled 1080p (with sharpness set high) look more HQ than the supposedly 4K versions (same sharpness)
I'm waiting for the LG oled 42" C model coming out this spring personnally, after seeing games on my oled tv I can't go back especially dark games like dark souls nioh or horror games
TimmyP
Id rather turn down resolution from 1440p to 1080p than drop game settings. You cant do that on a 1440p monitor and have it look good. Found myself in this situation too many times.
Now, take a 4k display and drop the resolution to 1080p. Still looks great, while 1440p with 1080p is completely unacceptable.This is because it scales by an integer, meaning 4 pixels on a 4k display is exactly 1 pixel on a 1080p output.
Venix
You know you can play on windowed mode too . Anyway if you do not have the hardware to run native 1440p you certainly do not have the hardware to render natively 4k is way out of the question. And if you are going to get a 4k monitor to game on 1080 ... Might as well stick to 1080 to begin with. And yeah i know what integer scaling is. Anyway it seems your problem mostly comes from your preferred way of playing your games , witch it might seem weird to me since in a lot of cases i can not tell medium and high detail if i do not compare screenshots next to each other . That said to each their own i can not blame you either since personal preferences are exactly that personal 😛
tsunami231
1080p on 1440p monitor does not look good anymore then 1440p downsamepled to 1080p monitor, on the other had I have seen 1440p on my 4k TV it look worlds better then 1440p down sampled to 1080p monitor or 1440p monitor trying to show 1080p.
Obviously they qaulity of scaler come into play, When ever i get new monitor to replace this DVI 1080p i have it will most likely be 4k monitor. But I will never buy another 1080p panel of any kind.
Venix
Never say never ! For example for a second monitor i use the cheapest possible that is not tn since tn view angles do not favor the usage since it is angled . I got a while back a philips ips 27' 60hz for if i remember right 108 euros , for what use i have for it is perfect (random googling and background noise yt ) but man the panel s@cks big time ! On blue color specifically if you look somewhat closely is "streaked " . No regrets though this monitor is for 2ndary stuff to reduce my alt tabbing and if it breaks i will get the cheapest possible again. :P
tsunami231
not issue for more i dont run 2 monitors and span the screen.
aufkrawall2
Not an issue with DLSS. It's the sweetspot for acceptable image quality and high fps, just like it is for acceptable font rendering at 27" without scaling. Better DL TAA(U) in the hopefully not too distant future will not only benefit 4k, but also 1440p.
1080p >24" displays are a joke, unless you need really big fonts due to some eye condition.
rl66
I agree on both pro and con 1440p
It is nearly the standard right now, but everything that need to be downscaled or upscaled look worse than native on it.
But also it's better to get a 1440p at high refresh than a 4k at 50/60 hz with too much millisecond... It look better most of the time.
And it's more easy to use with the median performances, ultra overpriced GPU we can get or that we own since too long.
aufkrawall2
That's a myth, you can up- and downscale from any to any resolution you want without real issues with any half-decent scaler such as bicubic or better. At least that is true for video. For games, spatial upscalers are always bad, but you can still render at any resolution you want with TAAU and image quality just degrades gradually with lower resolution. New DLDSR also works rather well with factors 1.78x and 2.25x.
RavenMaster
Dell running their own antiques road show.
rl66
It's not a myth at all, i have owned some of the best one, until i get my new 4k for home.
An image quality that just degrades gradually with lower resolution still is a degraded image and you see anytime the imperfection of the process on screen, also most game are in native HD or UHD without intermediary resolution... and so it's not ideal.
BUT it look better with those default at high refresh, than low cost 4K at 50/60 hz, low cost 4K are painfull for eyes.
AND don't forget the GPU used with the screen, it's an important point too (RX 6500 with 4K, isn't a good idea as an exemple).
aufkrawall2
Also true with 4k display, as you need to resort to much lower values in the first place to get a similar performance. And nearest neighbor 1080p -> 4k looks bad too vs. TAAU/DLSS.
And like I said, DLSS Quality (960p rendering) is fine in a lot of games on 1440p 27" screen, often still even better than native with regular TAA.
