Delivery and availability of the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti further delayed

Stormyandcold

2018-09-26 16:01

buhehe:

Let's not forget that 2080, despite costing more and performing about the same, has 3GB VRAM less than 1080ti. DLSS could be the only redeeming feature, only time will tell. And sure, some improvements from drivers... but they're rarely massive. So far it looks like a giant failure to me.

Yeah less VRAM adds to the problem. GTX1080ti prices are falling and here we see one coming in below the £600 mark. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080ti-gaming-oc-black-11264mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-19h-gi.html

#5589195

SniperX

2018-09-26 16:11

ScreamerRSA:

Strange, a retailer here in South Africa has stock :/ Costs $ 1 817 though (26 000 Rand) o_O

Evetech and Wootware both have stock of some of the RTX variants while Rebeltech lists one of the cards as 'in stock with supplier'. So there are more than a handful floating around here is South Africa....yeah, R26k....we love our taxes and cost of sales don't we. MSRP + 30-40%

#5589201

wasteomind

2018-09-26 16:29

Why aren't more news/enthusiast sites picking up this story and pressing Nvidia for more info? This is shitty launch, they should get all the bad news associated with it so it embarasses them and hopefully it doesn't happen again next time. Learn from mistakes.

#5589203

BangTail

2018-09-26 16:32

Yah, this is one serious joke of a launch.

#5589204

nizzen

2018-09-26 16:34

nVidia sux and Amd sux. What to do? 😱

#5589205

MK80

2018-09-26 16:34

BReal85:

Can you tell me why don't you stick to a 1080Ti? Just tell me one reason.

Simple the reason she is 15/30% better at the games I play sort of mine. And beyond is how the 1070 came out. It was 5/10% slower than the 980Ti and in the last few games it has been 1070 faster. Second in my Country Portugal the 1080Ti are the same price of 2080 not is more expensive, I paid 800 for the msi Nuke OC and the 1080Ti range of 795/1000 euros. Even in the used market there is no less than 650 euros the lowest. Third party less light is little difference but spends since it is one of the most expensive in the world. 😉

#5589218

Crazy Serb

2018-09-26 17:04

BReal85:

Can you tell me why don't you stick to a 1080Ti? Just tell me one reason.

nV slides convinced us all that pascal cards are bad. And pascal can't do raytracing at "unknown fps" like turing cards in games which do not support it yet. There, 2 reasons 😉

#5589227

H83

2018-09-26 17:24

AlmondMan:

This launch just feels more and more rushed. Why? Why does nVidia feel that they have to rush this product to market? Because the performance is lacklustre that letting another 3 months go by to allow for actual games and stuff to make use of the tech would make it seem absurd after a 2 year wait? Because they got so close to christmas that they wanted these to be what people bought instead of 1080s? It's just flabbergasting what they're doing here. Marketing for the cards is an absolute mess too.

Totally agree with this. This rushed release makes no sense no matter how we look at it... Don´t understand what the guys at Nvidia are thinking/smoking...

#5589236

Netherwind

2018-09-26 17:47

I remember being frustrated at nVidia for the lack of SLI support two years ago and now the RTX launch is making me mad with that stupid and completely unwarranted price of the 2080Ti which I really need considering the resolutions I play in. I'm really hoping for something good from the red team so I can switch over. The 1080Ti is still a great card though.

#5589247

fr33k

2018-09-26 18:18

H83:

Totally agree with this. This rushed release makes no sense no matter how we look at it... Don´t understand what the guys at Nvidia are thinking/smoking...

i'll play. i think what they are thinking is "people will see how expensive this card is and they will buy up all our old 1080ti's" and judging from the reviews and all the people suggesting that they do that they are right on target.

#5589254

tensai28

2018-09-26 18:34

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

In case you have been checking some pricewatch engines on RTX 2080 Ti availability, you'll be hardpressed to find a store with stock. The product that was released last week, would be shipped out to ... Delivery and availability of the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti further delayed

Any word on general availability (on shelf) for those who can't pre-order? Stores over here are all uncertain and not taking any more pre-orders at the time.

#5589257

Glottiz

2018-09-26 18:38

You can get a new 1080Ti for 650€ and used one for as low as 450€ (yes some 1080Tis were used for mining but so what, miners undervolt cards and these cards still come with at least 2 years of warranty left).

#5589288

schilperoordbas

2018-09-26 20:16

@Glottiz, got one from Tweakers.net - user Omni. It was 600 and it's not even used, brand new stuff. Great deal.

#5589302

JamesSneed

2018-09-26 20:53

So does Ti stand for Time Inserted?

#5589307

Darren Hodgson

2018-09-26 21:02

Just watched a Joker Productions' YouTube video where he compares the average performance increase of GTX 980 Ti to GTX 1080 Ti and GTX 1080 Ti to GTX 2080 Ti at 2560x1440 Ultra settings across 9 games here: [youtube=--UHIlV11wg] GTX 980 Ti > GTX 1080 Ti = Performance increase of between 57% and 92% with an average of 76% GTX 1080 Ti > GTX 2080 Ti = Performance increase of between 12% and 45% with an average of just 27% Sure, these are just 9 games out of thousands but it does highlight, IMO, how overpriced the RTX 2080 Ti is when compared with the previous generational leap in performance.

#5589311

bigfutus

2018-09-26 21:13

Artificial scarcity? Unavailability makes the RTX look really amazing, for the uninformed for sure. It must be so good, it's sold out already. I better run and place a order too!

#5589312

fantaskarsef

2018-09-26 21:15

BReal85:

Yes, I would like to hear the same guys saying the same for these NV cards. Btw, I wouldn't say they are underperforming as they nearly get a 700-900 series performance upgrade, but those cards were 50$ cheaper than the 700 equivalents. Now they get a bit less pfare 100-150-400-600$ more expensive... It is the price-performance ratio that is ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, I was also one of those who complained about lacking launches at AMD. But taking it fare and square, Nvidia is pulling this off too, and I don't like it. I think this is a sign of keeping stocks low to minimize costs (and risk) at the price of availability to the customer, and thus such a launch is not to be desired. Also, I honestly don't think I'll upgrade mainly because of the price. Gives me a good excuse to not fall in and blindly buy it because it's 25% faster. 😀

#5589313

TylerAD

2018-09-26 21:24

I do not think a lot of people understand the power of the new cards. Please watch the Digital Foundry video BEFORE you draw conclusions. I too was a little underwhelmed, then I was further enlightened. This maybe explains how the benchmarks/games are not even accurate when it comes to the true performance of the new architecture. [youtube=pgEI4tzh0dc]

#5589315

nhlkoho

2018-09-26 21:28

DW75:

We get an RTX 2080 which is overpriced by 200 bucks, and performs the exact same as the previous GTX 1080 Ti. We get an RTX 2070, which is using a low end TU106, and Nvidia charges 600 US for it. This is a core which should be in a 300 dollar US card. Now they just have delay after delay on getting cards to customers who were willing to pay these rip off prices. Come on, Nvidia, the greed and scumbag tactics you are pulling here are appalling.

How do you know what these cards should be priced at? You can't base these arguments solely on the fact that previous generation cards in that number series cost a certain price. It could cost Nvidia $300 to make a 2070. Now saying that, I don't like the prices either but I also understand they are running a business. New technology takes a lot of time and R&D funding. Sure maybe the next gen will be cheaper, maybe it won't. But it seems like the loudest complainers are the 1080ti owners.

#5589317

Denial

2018-09-26 21:30

TylerAD:

I do not think a lot of people understand the power of the new cards. Please watch the Digital Foundry video BEFORE you draw conclusions. I too was a little underwhelmed, then I was further enlightened. This maybe explains how the benchmarks/games are not even accurate when it comes to the true performance of the new architecture.

This has been discussed here numerous times. You're paying a premium for a lottery on whether the tech in the architecture will be useful or not. It sweetens the deal a bit nowhere near enough to justify the increased cost. And honestly, I'm really sick of the "promise of" things by tech companies - it's becoming a new thing where they go "We are launching product A and you will get feature X,Y,Z over the next year" but then a year goes by and Y is completely forgotten, it turns out Z won't work at all because the hardware isn't capable or something and X comes like 10 months after the product launches right before they ship a new one. Google is insanely guilty of this, Tesla (self driving hardware has been 'fully capable how many times now?) and Nvidia with the Shield has been doing this since the product launched (Remember Nvidia Spot? Where the hell is it now?)