CPU-Z scores Intel Core i7-12700K at over 800 points.

Andy Watson

2021-10-07 10:00

I'm looking forward to the Guru3d's review and others. Depending on temps and power this could be the new Conroe for Intel after AMD had K7/ K8 ...... to put a historical slant on things. Maybe I should have waited and not bought the AMD 5800x, it's good but it has it's quirks and overclocking satisfaction was never satiated. I wonder how these overclock with it's big core little core thing ?

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Andy Watson

2021-10-07 10:01

Also it looks like people who bought Rocket Lake wasted their money considering .... that now seems the ultimate stop gap processor whilst Intel concentrated on this.

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umeng2002

2021-10-07 10:08

About a 20% single core performance increase over Zen 3. As predicted. But Zen3D will close that gap. I'm sure these leaks are only from DDR5 variants of Alder Lake. AMD can simply reduce prices on the 5900X or others... But knowing Intel, Intel will just price these new CPUs even higher than current Zen 3 CPUs.

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Krizby

2021-10-07 10:15

Andy Watson:

Also it looks like people who bought Rocket Lake wasted their money considering .... that now seems the ultimate stop gap processor whilst Intel concentrated on this.

The only good Rocket Lake CPU are the budget one (11400K, 11400F), the high ends RKL are a waste of sand, RKL launch remind me of Kaby Lake before being succeeded swiftly by the excellent Coffee Lake 8700K

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umeng2002

2021-10-07 10:27

Frankly, Alder Lake is a stop-gap. Intel took as many of their new cores are possible and "glued" more low performance cores onto them. Then they put in another, smaller CPU (Intel Thread Director) to tell Windows 11 how to use this new Franken-CPU. All that stemming from Intel not being able to scale their big cores to more than 8 on the desktop. Alder Lake is a stop-gap.

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Andy Watson

2021-10-07 10:39

umeng2002:

Frankly, Alder Lake is a stop-gap. Intel took as many of their new cores are possible and "glued" more low performance cores onto them. Then they put in another, smaller CPU (Intel Thread Director) to tell Windows 11 how to use this new Franken-CPU. All that stemming from Intel not being able to scale their big cores to more than 8 on the desktop. Alder Lake is a stop-gap.

You don't like Intel, yeah I get it ... sigh ... Having been putting in cpus back since the Intel 2086 I am bored of fanboys cutting off their noses to spite their faces on both sides. At any given time there is an obvious processor to choose. ;)

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kapu

2021-10-07 11:36

Andy Watson:

I'm looking forward to the Guru3d's review and others. Depending on temps and power this could be the new Conroe for Intel after AMD had K7/ K8 ...... to put a historical slant on things. Maybe I should have waited and not bought the AMD 5800x, it's good but it has it's quirks and overclocking satisfaction was never satiated. I wonder how these overclock with it's big core little core thing ?

Don't get any hopes for OC potential. You have monster CPU for another few years , better sit back and watch the battle . Alder vs Zen3+ 😀

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Andy Watson

2021-10-07 11:53

It's nice to look forward to Kapu !

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Astyanax

2021-10-07 15:08

umeng2002:

Frankly, Alder Lake is a stop-gap. Intel took as many of their new cores are possible and "glued" more low performance cores onto them. Then they put in another, smaller CPU (Intel Thread Director) to tell Windows 11 how to use this new Franken-CPU.

no, that was icelake.

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Krizby

2021-10-07 15:55

haste:

If these 800pts are without OC@5GHz then we could see 850pts with 12900K and similar setup. Damn I can't wait for proper lower-latency DDR5s and some solid OC on these CPUs. These numbers look insane.

What are you going to do with it though? any GPU that benefit from fast CPU are 2000usd+ now 😀

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Venix

2021-10-07 16:26

@haste you are overclocking systems that do compiling work ? oO

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Krizby

2021-10-07 16:27

Venix:

@haste you are overclocking systems that do compiling work ? oO

YOLO

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schmidtbag

2021-10-07 17:29

Andy Watson:

At any given time there is an obvious processor to choose.

The thing about common sense (obviousness) is it's not so common. There are people who get some pretty overkill CPUs just for gaming purposes.

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JamesSneed

2021-10-07 19:52

That's smoking my 5800x.

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reix2x

2021-10-07 20:15

Wow that's a blazing fast single thread CPU, i guess this is a best case scenario, i won't expect that much of overclocking, this CPUs automatically boost a single core as much as they can, i suppose that a good cooling will be very important to keep those nice numbers on single thread performance, in any way, it is impressive what they are getting and this is very good for us as consumers because this is the rate of innovation we deserve from years ago.

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Mufflore

2021-10-07 20:57

Andy Watson:

Also it looks like people who bought Rocket Lake wasted their money considering .... that now seems the ultimate stop gap processor whilst Intel concentrated on this.

Not really. I was forced to buy a new system to run my 3090 card because my 6700K system wouldnt even POST with it in. The beep code complained of system memory issues but that ram continues to work fine in the same system with a 1080ti. (it wasnt PSU or any other hardware issue than a problem with the mobo and its not worth replacing when it continues to work great without a 3090) Turns out Cyberpunk would have brought my 6700K to its knees, my new 10700K deals with it no problem so it was perfect timing. Performance is good enough to last at least 2 CPU gens so I dont need to pay the tech tax for new DDR5, and I might get to see PCIE-5.0 when I next upgrade. Put simply, I'm more than happy with a 10700K. Its given me near a year of flawless gaming, I cant ask for more. It gives me plenty of time to watch and wait before choosing my next upgrade.

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moab600

2021-10-07 21:28

I wonder what AMD is thinking about all those leaks... I do believe Alder Lake will beat Zen 3 is ST and on some point MT otherwise there is no reason to release this new(Finally) Gen.

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Mineria

2021-10-07 21:51

JamesSneed:

That's smoking my 5800x.

Question is though, do we need that additional performance? Probably not. I do like the idea of them slower cores for low priority tasks too.

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Venix

2021-10-07 21:51

haste:

Yes I do, but only at home 🙂 Honestly I did this for past 20 years and I never had a single problem with this... or at least I hope I didn't... you know... nobody complained about random pointers flying around 🙂

Balls of steel ! At the very least i have a feeling you are making sure you are stable for real not just stable for gaming 😛. Well if it works it works ! The only thing i can say godspeed!

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nizzen

2021-10-07 22:35

Mineria:

Question is though, do we need that additional performance? Probably not. I do like the idea of them slower cores for low priority tasks too.

We are cpubound even i 3440x1440 in Battlefield 2042 beta now, so we need more cpupower. Testet both 11900k and 5950x with 3090 1000w bios. There is no doubt we need better singlecore performance.