COUGAR 700M Gaming Mouse Released
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Fox2232
Are Saitek engineers running wildly in other companies labs?
I get feeling peripherals companies run out of ideas for their own name.
Saitek's peripherals branding is under MadCatz. (Very good brand and devices if they are from Saitek.)
Then we have Roccat. (Some of their devices are not up to the game, others are nearly perfect.)
And COUGAR, with nearly same logo as Roccat. (Have not had single peripheral in hand but their 700k keybord looks good.)
Someone should do harcore test of all new hi tech mouses, or at least 60$+ ones.
scrapser
Is that a mouse or an exploded view of a mouse printed out using a 3D printer?
Mineria
http://i.imgur.com/u3jPzyF.jpg
Glidefan
Moderator
Does it transform back into it's robot form once plugged?
sw1000xg
Does it come with an older fit woman?
Fox2232
@ Mineria: That imagage is wrong and brand picky.
While I agree that Roccat Kone+ what Sh*t with tons of problems. Before they had just Kone (non plus) which was The God Tier.
That alone means author had no clue or intentionally left it out completely now Roccat is returning to roots with Kone XTD.
There you have Roccat/Rokkat written too, so...
And While I agree that Cyborg RAT was more toy than high end tool. At date on top, there were 7/9 version and mmo version which performed very well.
And I know their programming software for buttons, there is nearly no equal in that in peripherals and definitely no competition in mouse class.
Zowie FK, while good performer, bad even for my small hands, painful to use due to bad ergonomics.
As for Razer, yes that fits quite nicely from bottom up. And that M$ mouse, had it in work, and that is where it belongs at best with its 2 buttons and scroll wheel.
Ven0m
I think that acceleration is an overused term. I've just checked Razer Mamba by moving it very fast in one direction, and slowly in the opposite, on cloth pad, a lot of times, and at the end the pointer landed in the same starting position. So for me demonizing laser sensors is kinda rubbish.
I've also seen pros using G9x, SteelSeries, and Razer laser mice with great success. So if they can win with laser mouse, and random person loses with the same mouse terribly, it's not the fault of the sensor. Nonetheless, Deathadder handling feels great.
Back to Cougar mouse - what I don't like in this design is that it looks like it can't provide good support and balance even for people who don't really lift their mice. Just look at IntelliMouse Explorer / Deathadder / Mamba / G700 - they're super-comfortable for most people (maybe except lifting G700), while having no adjustments or other design gimmicks.
Solfaur
Well, this one sure is hard to clean with all those angles.
Ven0m
+1
Great point! I haven't thought about it, but it's one of these little things that one don't really think about when buying, and after that the problems pop up.
Mineria
The list is looking at sensor/tracking quality/accuracy, and by the looks of it for fps gaming.
Ergonomics, software and 100 additional buttons is just additional stuff.
My favorite top mouse list would be more like Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0, Zowie EC 1 eVo and Steelseries Rival.
I see a trend regarding mice with tons of gimmicks, they use lower quality sensors on them compared to the more simple mice so not a huge fan of them, that includes the Cougar 700M.
As for Logitech, I never had one where the switches could last more than a few months, so I stopped even considering them as a brand to go for, regardless how good sensors they might use.
I know others had more luck and rate them as top end, but I guess that depends on the revision you can get.
Still, it's the sensor and not everything else around the mouse that is taken into consideration regarding that list.
Neither is it made by one persons opinion only.
Fox2232
My issue is not with approach based on sensor quality, but with way they pick what goes into list and what does not.
They basically pick worst mouses of some brands, misspell even their entire brand name and even break sorting rule by putting same sensor into 2 different categories because that mouse is worse (yes it is). And it shows that approach have not been consistent and therefore list provides close to no value to me.
And that is why I would like to see intelligent test which rates each mouse based on ergonomics, feature set and accuracy.
This can be placed into 3D matrix showing best mouses in one corner and worst in opposite.
Or if scale would be for each category from 0 to 1 then multiplication of all categories would show overall mouse usability.
Mineria
Same sensor but do they use the same controller chip?
I too would love to see a more professional and scientific list, but this was kind of the only recent thing I could find on the net, and to some extend it rates some of the mice correct.
Although, I would take the name differences for the top tiers with a grain of salt and see them as one tier.
Also, it would be impossible to include ergonomics into a single list, since some prefer claw, others palm and some a hybrid, plus there are different hand sizes too.
Ven0m
Some people used Enotus test, so here's some input from a wireless laser mouse with my usual settings:
Enotus Mouse Test v0.1.4
Mouse: @oem18.inf,%razer0025.devicedesc%;Razer Mamba Dock
Model: Razer Mamba Wireless
Resolution: 4000 dpi \excellent\
Polling speed: 498 Hz
Max speed: 5.00 m/s (787269 points/s) \excellent\
Precision: 99.4 % (0.08 m/s) \excellent\
Smoothness: 7.1 % \good\
If you can get a comfortable mouse with such stats or better, then why would you want to overpay?
jhonnyher
brutal
fermthe
IS it me or its a very frustrating situation to announce a product all these months before and make us try to find how to buy it ?
