Corsair to release 12 models of DDR5 memory compatible with AMD EXPO Technology
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cucaulay malkin
yet some people will still want me to believe that ddr5 is already at ddr4 prices.
Kaarme
Have you compared the prices of DDR5 today to the prices of DDR4 when it was of the same age? It wouldn't surprise me if DDR5 was cheaper because back in DDR4's days of youth, the bigger sets (like 32GB) probably were more expensive.
pegasus1
64gb of DDR4 3200mhz = £200
64gb of DDR5 4800mhz = £330
*Source OCUK
cucaulay malkin
no because it's not 2015 now and that information is irrelevant.
cucaulay malkin
https://geizhals.de/corsair-vengeance-lpx-schwarz-dimm-kit-16gb-cmk16gx4m2e3200c16-a2059179.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk
same as 185,right ?
schmidtbag
How are you still not getting it? New tech = more expensive. Prices go down as time goes on. The point @Kaarme was trying to make is when DDR4 was the same age, it wasn't any cheaper. Current-gen tech is pretty much never going to be cheaper than last-gen tech so long as the performance is as good or better. So, if you're holding off DDR5 until it equals DDR4 in price, you're going to have to wait until DDR6, because it's just not going to happen. And even with DDR6, it still might not happen since DDR5 is inherently more expensive to make. Don't forget inflation too. As pointed out yesterday, DDR5 prices are known to start dropping and there are kits that are maybe 10% more expensive despite the fact you are getting more than a 10% improvement.
I'm sure you paid more for DDR4 than you did for anything prior, so why are you now complaining when there are affordable options out there? You mentioned you wanted 5600, and you can get that without exorbitant prices.
nizzen
AMD Expo 5600mhz ddr5 😳
Meanwhile on z790 with 13900k: 7800mhz DDR5 A-die easy 😀
cucaulay malkin
no,I didn't actually,cause I know to wait for good stuff to appear at reasonable prices,instead of gobbling up the price premiums for early adopters.
I'm almost sure my 4133 b-die kit was actually cheaper than what I paid for my previous ddr3 kit.
I'm sure ddr5 is better than ddr4 too,but now it's just not even close to matching it in value. it's a great decision for intel to support it on 12th/13th gen,even though amd fanboys said it couldn't happen.
I'm sure if am5 still supported ddr4 and 12/13th gen didn't, you and tunejunky would be saying ddr5 is a poor choice.
are those 5600 kits a-die ?
schmidtbag
Then stop pouting and just continue to wait... I'm not happy about the prices either but this is just the trend of new tech.
Supposing that's true, you either:
A. Bought the kit just before the RAM shortage. We're not likely to see 2016 prices for modern RAM ever again.
B. Waited a few years for prices to stabilize. We're not quite there yet for DDR5; with EXPO, that will further delay such price drops.
C. You happened to wait for a good sale. Yesterday, you basically dismissed sales saying it's not a "regular price".
And remember: the default [ECC] configuration of DDR5 is inherently more expensive.
I agree that for most people, DDR5 today is not worth the money. I also agree it was a good choice on Intel's part to support DDR4 with 12th/13th gen. I'm not sure what the AMD fans were saying "couldn't happen" but considering how long AMD supports their sockets, I think it would have been a long-term mistake for them to support DDR4.
Why? You remind me of political extremists, where if I'm not blatantly favoring your side then I must be the other extreme. There is a middle ground.
With AMD, things get rather complicated due to how much their platforms heavily revolve around RAM speed, whereas Intel doesn't. AMD further complicates things with their hefty cache sizes, which can negate the benefit of faster RAM in some cases. Furthermore, Intel was wise to support both because DDR5 still needed time to mature, and Intel didn't want sub-par memory dragging down the performance of AL. Intel also didn't want overpriced memory pushing people away from AL. But by the time Ryzen 7000 comes out, DDR5 will be somewhat mature, so AMD didn't need a fallback plan.
So what would tunejunky and I say? "It depends". Honestly today, same goes for Intel, because while in most cases DDR5 isn't worth the extra cost, it is for some workloads, especially once you account for ECC.
pegasus1
I think thats the same model, im not a fan of all the bling that is making its way into every PC component, im certainly not a fan of the software required to make the bling extra blingy doing blingy stuff to music or keyboard inputs and the like, iCue can go and do one.
TLD LARS
So are you planning on backing that statement up with prof when the modules are released?
nizzen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797667936578830356/1022062189659566080/Screen_Shot_09-21-22_at_04.21_AM.PNG
TLD LARS
I think you misunderstood me, because that picture does not use a 13900k and also not a Z790 and there is no proof that they are using the AMD Expo 5600mhz ddr5 sticks.
The temps on the sticks looks like open desk or sub 20 degrees ambient, so I would not call it easy.
