Update: Corsair MP600 PCIe Gen 4 M.2 SSD 1 TB to Cost € 249
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Clawedge
OK that's just way too much.
I was expecting around 10 to 15% higher cost at most.
This is early adopter gouging.
Andy Watson
As is always of course, then any bugs ...
However it will be interesting to see what gains we get with this and AMD compared to Intel and previous generation. Will the combination be give more of a reason to jump to AMD than just if it was just the CPU alone.
Looking forward to the reviews coming up, it feels like treading water at the moment until the phony war ends.
asturur
1tb current nvme samsung 970 evo plus is 220 on amazon. wht 250 is outrageous?
Robbo9999
It'll be interesting to see if PCIe Gen 4 NVMe drives can offer any substantial real world benefits over PCIe Gen 3 drives - I'm thinking not many.
Clawedge
Samsung has become the apple of the IT world. They are overcharging. There are other brands available that offer almost the same performance at a lower price
Rx4speed
Could not agree with this more. The 970 evo, is still a TLC drive regardless of the marketing horseshit. It's the best in it's class, sure. But it cost what, 50% more than drives that perform with 10% and last just as long.
The Goose
Its almost twice as fast....what do you expect, just a shame i would need to spend best part of £1000 to be able to benefit from the extra speed but my i7 7700k and Samsung 970 pro 1tb will do me for quite some time
asturur
I just do not think that for a 1tb top notch drive 250 usd is too much. the 970 pro cost much higher.
Offering `ALMOST` the same performances is not an argument for pricing.
If price for performance would scale up linearly there would not be market for low end parts.
250$ for the only pcie 4 drive at launch, is fine.
Samsung does not overprice, is not even comparable with apple overpricing.
The first SSD everyone got with high performances have been samsung, the 840evo is the ssd that pulled down prices for everyone.
NewTRUMP Order
Any "new" product has a premium price when it first hits the market. The excitement of it being new ignores the premium price and sells. Once Pcie 4.0 becomes mainstream and boring the prices will drop like every other new product. What I find interesting is AMD has snuck under the radar that they have a gpu that runs on 4.0. Will be interesting to see what that leads to. And don't forget Pcie 5.0 products are supposed to hit the market by years end. Oh the choices we poor consumers have to make.
Venix
well now i will not mind some clearance sale ...for the old outdated gen3 nvme drives .... i will swallow my pride and get one ...or two .... i know i know my sacrifice will be remembered !
MegaFalloutFan
Its not fine, the prices above are wrong, right now MP510 2TB goes for 259USD on Amazon.com or Corsair.com [US web site, they have regional selection]
MP510 is better then samung 970 EVO Plus in many regards, TWICE as much TBW.
I rather buy x2 MP510 for RAID0, then single 2Tb Gen4 drive and have twice as much space and faster too 7000 read and 6000 write
MegaFalloutFan
Its needed for the controller.
MegaFalloutFan
They already at clearance price, 259$ for 2TB
Venix
This is an amazing deal ! Will get one as soon as Amazon prime start offering smuggling services threw the Greek customs also 😛
Koniakki
Amazon(.de/EU) has the MP510 960GB for €128 atm. And that looks like a great price tbh(as far as nvme prices go ofc)!
The other 2 other similarly spec'ed models that I see available(to buy) are 1TB from PNY and Patriot which cost €10-20 more.
Oh and can someone please kindly remind Samsung and WD we are halfway through year 2019 already and that they need to update their *2018* nvme prices? 😛
Here's a couple DRAMeXchange articles just to help refresh their memory.
3/25/2019: https://www.dramexchange.com/WeeklyResearch/Post/5/5254.html
5/08/2019: https://press.trendforce.com/press/20190508-3238.html
5/30/2019: https://www.dramexchange.com/WeeklyResearch/Post/5/7307.html
Now just for the sake of it, lets compare prices from 4,5 months ago to the current ones. *prices aren't absolute and may change.
https://i.postimg.cc/q789bnnY/pny-xlr8-cs3030-nvme-ssd-review-final.jpg
So, WD and Samsung charge anywhere from 40 to 60% over the closest competing products. Oh well. I guess they must make up for the lower than expected supply demand in 2019 right?
0blivious
To me, a 1 TB SSD is kind of small these days. With new AAA games hitting 50GB regularly and some reaching over 100GB, this drive won't hold much. The price is a little steep, but that thing is quite fast, so you pay a premium.
The more these high end drives push the envelope, the better for the reasonably priced drives. I grabbed a 2TB Intel 660p for ~$200 a couple months ago. It isn't insane fast, and has the worst nand tech, but I'm content with 1620/1930 GB/sec I/O and I don't ever foresee hitting that write cycle limit (TBW) in the next 5 years. It'll be outdated by then.
Venix
@0blivious well when we talk about games a sata3 ssd does the job almost as good you might same 1 second here and there with an nvme ssd but really will you even notice ? Ever?
0blivious
Sometimes, you notice, other times it's pretty close to my old evo. There's certainly no reason to replace all your sata SSDs. I hope it didn't seem like i was implying that. Games with many smaller files load about the same. Games wrapped into a few massive files are the ones you notice.
DmitryKo
Samsung SSDs are hardly overpriced, they are ultra-reliable by using in-house controllers and flash memory. It's true 970 Evo and 970 Pro are only rated for market-average amounts of endurance - which would be enough to last tens of years in a typical home PC anyway - but they exceed these projected numbers by 1.5 orders of magnitude in real-world endurance tests.
NVMe controller remains the most important component of the SSD, due to the inefficiencies of handling small 512B/4KB data blocks used by common LBA adressing schemes. This is the reason why random reads/writes do not exceed 300-500 MByte/s even for the fastest NVMe disks.
So to realise the benefits of the faster PCIe interface and improve sustained read/writes, first we need faster controllers with more IOPS to process these small blocks, on top of additional flash memory channels to keep continous read/write bandwidth.
The radical solution would be native Windows OS support for flash-aware file systems and direct-connected flash memory, like the Memory Technology Device layer in Linux. That however would require a ground-up redesign of existing block IO subsystems and user-facing APIs developed in the ATA/SCSI era...
RzrTrek
Wake me up when 1TB is $99 and not before then.
