If only Intel's GPU efforts were as successful as the CPU ones. If Intel could gain 20% of the market share from Nvidia, the market would be more healthy. 60% Nvidia, 20% AMD, and 20% Intel would be better than the current situation.
I don't need the all core performance of my 12900k and so run a undervolt and cap PL1/2 at 125W. It still manages 25k in CBr23. I'm wondering how the 13900k does with the same power restrictions.
So adding 33% more cores even small ones adding 30 multi score does not seem that surprising obviously they are not as potent as the bigger cores but those small cores are no slouches .. so we are looking on what 10% ipc uplift give or take 3~5 % ?
If only Intel's GPU efforts were as successful as the CPU ones. If Intel could gain 20% of the market share from Nvidia, the market would be more healthy. 60% Nvidia, 20% AMD, and 20% Intel would be better than the current situation.
nvidia would still have 60% of market, it wouldnt really change much, both intel and amd would have start taking the market from nvidia to make difference
I am all for better pricing and beter options, but for that really to come to happen, the performance between the 3 has to be equal last i check performance isnt even equal between the nvidia and amd. and prices are all over prices as result
I wasn't believing all the rumors until now. Looks like I'm going AM5 this time. 375w @5.2 Nope
You are the Cinebench gamer I see.....
Better buy Epyc or Threadripper 😉
Guess how many watt for 7950x @ 5200mhz all core with Avx 512 😀
80 core ARM is owning everyone in performance per watt:
[youtube=m6-juFXR9c0]
You are the Cinebench gamer I see.....
Better buy Epyc or Threadripper 😉
Guess how many watt for 7950x @ 5200mhz all core with Avx 512 😀
80 core ARM is owning everyone in performance per watt:
[youtube=m6-juFXR9c0]
zen 4 doesn't have native 512bit simd like intel, it's still going to be 256bit native (processing 512 instructions as 2 ops presumably) , so its probably going to be similar to avx2 for power consumption. it will have a big tdp, but probably not 375 watts package power big... that is unless you have some insider information that says otherwise:D
my 5950x 29k@67°C@188W
my 12900k 28k@86°C@251W (when it worked but it degraded...or the motherboard...I have an asus >< after 6 months and now I have like 27k)
same custom loop !!! not buying Intel again especially if they are announced to be hotter
I truly hope AMD didn't go overboard with wattage or my main gpu is going back to the 5950x which has an amazing perf/watts ratio and more than that just runs way cooler over
I really hate that AMD dropped threadripper because it was way easier to cool than those small cpus, you cannot properly cool a 1x1cm surface 300w heat source even with a triple radiator custom loop it's not happening
for anyone interested those are my clock tuner ryzen tools settings for the 5950x my bios is almost stock I made no changes you find in manuals or guides even the ones I'm supposed to do for CTR
4900 4850 4750
1400 1375 1350
1350 25
4750
4650
1250 75
4500
4400
autoload profiles
ctr hybrid oc
px preset mix
it's got twice the e-cores, 50% more cores overall for 20-25%~ multicore improvements over the 12900k, i'm not sure if i should think that's about where it should be(given they are e-cores), or less then it should be, but i don't think i'd think of that as a massive improvement.
Not to say it's not an overall faster CPU, obviously that's a given, just hard to know what's expected of e-cores increase overall. Seems to me if it wasn't at least that much of an increase people would be questioning where the performance went vs 12 series, given the additional cores.
What are those game benckmarks results, they look bad or i dont get them
this is engineering sample, ignore these benchmarks, the fact 13900K lost to 12900K in CPUZ single core benchmark is everything you need to know
kakiharaFRS:
my 5950x 29k@67°C@188W
my 12900k 28k@86°C@251W (when it worked but it degraded...or the motherboard...I have an asus >< after 6 months and now I have like 27k)
same custom loop !!! not buying Intel again especially if they are announced to be hotter
I truly hope AMD didn't go overboard with wattage or my main gpu is going back to the 5950x which has an amazing perf/watts ratio and more than that just runs way cooler over
I really hate that AMD dropped threadripper because it was way easier to cool than those small cpus, you cannot properly cool a 1x1cm surface 300w heat source even with a triple radiator custom loop it's not happening
for anyone interested those are my clock tuner ryzen tools settings for the 5950x my bios is almost stock I made no changes you find in manuals or guides even the ones I'm supposed to do for CTR
4900 4850 4750
1400 1375 1350
1350 25
4750
4650
1250 75
4500
4400
autoload profiles
ctr hybrid oc
px preset mix
Im an Intel/nvidia user mainly because they old, big and just work, but i decided to give amd a chance, big mistake.
I moved up from 5950x to 12900K, extremely happy now, the 5950x +x570 and now rx 6700 made me hate AMD to the point i wont give them a chance even if their top products beat competing by over 20%
I had so many issues, small quirks and annoyances with AMD that i never had with otehr products
my 5950x 29k@67°C@188W
my 12900k 28k@86°C@251W (when it worked but it degraded...or the motherboard...I have an asus >< after 6 months and now I have like 27k)
same custom loop !!! not buying Intel again especially if they are announced to be hotter
I truly hope AMD didn't go overboard with wattage or my main gpu is going back to the 5950x which has an amazing perf/watts ratio and more than that just runs way cooler over
I really hate that AMD dropped threadripper because it was way easier to cool than those small cpus, you cannot properly cool a 1x1cm surface 300w heat source even with a triple radiator custom loop it's not happening
for anyone interested those are my clock tuner ryzen tools settings for the 5950x my bios is almost stock I made no changes you find in manuals or guides even the ones I'm supposed to do for CTR
4900 4850 4750
1400 1375 1350
1350 25
4750
4650
1250 75
4500
4400
autoload profiles
ctr hybrid oc
px preset mix
Wtf are you all talking about?
We barely get to 100W in most games regardless of CPU.
Who gives a feck about cinebench, aida and other nonsense that nobody uses for anything irl.
Do you need 2x radiators and custom $500 cooling plus else to game? Give me break ...
Thought I'd check.... Tried 2 games on my 9900k
BF5 - 160W
Deathloop - 140W
So to me, it looks like most games use well over 100W.
Wtf are you all talking about?
We barely get to 100W in most games regardless of CPU.
Who gives a feck about cinebench, aida and other nonsense that nobody uses for anything irl.
Do you need 2x radiators and custom $500 cooling plus else to game? Give me break ...
That's some powerful cognitive dissonance there. That's like getting a 700HP V8 and dismissing how much gas it guzzles because "it's not that bad when you're cruising on the highway". Then what's the point of buying it if you're not intending to tap into its full potential?
If the only workloads you put the 13900K under have a reasonable power draw, you might as well just get a lower-end CPU, since you ought to see no noteworthy difference. If you insist there would be a difference then you better go save up for that $500 water loop.
nuclear reactorscomputers so they don't meltdown.my 12900k 28k@86°C@251W (when it worked but it degraded...or the motherboard...I have an asus >< after 6 months and now I have like 27k)
same custom loop !!! not buying Intel again especially if they are announced to be hotter I truly hope AMD didn't go overboard with wattage or my main gpu is going back to the 5950x which has an amazing perf/watts ratio and more than that just runs way cooler over I really hate that AMD dropped threadripper because it was way easier to cool than those small cpus, you cannot properly cool a 1x1cm surface 300w heat source even with a triple radiator custom loop it's not happening for anyone interested those are my clock tuner ryzen tools settings for the 5950x my bios is almost stock I made no changes you find in manuals or guides even the ones I'm supposed to do for CTR 4900 4850 4750 1400 1375 1350 1350 25 4750 4650 1250 75 4500 4400 autoload profiles ctr hybrid oc px preset mix