Core i5-12400 Now leaks as well Beats Ryzen 5 5600X in Benchmarks

cucaulay malkin

2021-10-11 19:42

well I would consider it just bare minimum even 11400F is close to 5600x,and it's a rkl-s,a waste of sand pretty much. it intel have something good ineed,12400 should win by some distance.

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Falkentyne

2021-10-12 00:22

AMD is in trouble if this thing is beating the IPC of a 5.1 ghz Rocket Lake. Yikes.

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DonMigs85

2021-10-12 00:58

tty8k:

It looks like a bare minimum, which is not too bad for $200. The test was made holding a tower air cooler on it (no retention for lga1700). Performance wise yea, faster than 5600x and only half the consumption@4ghz all core (5600x goes to around 140W+) I'd say it looks great for a budget gaming with no significant cooling required. I kind of have my doubts on that 70W in AIDA fpu avx2. It might be possible though, it's only 6 cores probably running at low voltage to achieve only 4GHz. If true, it means you can passively cool it in gaming (40W +/-)

Isn't the 5600X just 65W TDP? It's the 5800X that maxes out around 140W. But yeah, while this is good for Intel they only just caught up to and slightly beat AMD again after losing the IPC/efficiency crown back in 2019 when Zen 2 came out.

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sykozis

2021-10-12 01:07

DonMigs85:

Isn't the 5600X just 65W TDP? It's the 5800X that maxes out around 140W. But yeah, while this is good for Intel they only just caught up to and slightly beat AMD again after losing the IPC/efficiency crown back in 2019 when Zen 2 came out.

For CPUs, TDP has nothing to do with power consumption. A processor with a 65watt TDP can easily exceed 100watts consumed under load.

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sykozis

2021-10-12 01:10

It is just cinebench...so nothing to really worry about yet. Let's see how it does in benchmarks that actually matter.

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umeng2002

2021-10-12 01:25

That’s the thing, we’ve only seen rendering tests leak out. Alder Lake is low on cache, so maybe that won’t make those leaked gains translate to games as much as you might think.

#5954459

cpy2

2021-10-12 08:31

There better be some big rabbits hidden inside Lisa's Su pockets! I planned to swtich from intel to AMD on my next PC, i'm kinda tired with intel.

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kapu

2021-10-12 11:19

tty8k:

It looks like a bare minimum, which is not too bad for $200. The test was made holding a tower air cooler on it (no retention for lga1700). Performance wise yea, faster than 5600x and only half the consumption@4ghz all core (5600x goes to around 140W+) I'd say it looks great for a budget gaming with no significant cooling required. I kind of have my doubts on that 70W in AIDA fpu avx2. It might be possible though, it's only 6 cores probably running at low voltage to achieve only 4GHz. If true, it means you can passively cool it in gaming (40W +/-)

140W is not achievable on my 5600X , not even close . Must be bug or mistake . I could run any AVX test with OC its hard to as 120W without crash. You would need sick cooling to achive that and not crash .

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DaLoona

2021-10-12 11:48

AMD is in trouble if this thing is beating the IPC of a 5.1 ghz Rocket Lake. Yikes.

Don't forget that Ryzen 5xxx is already a year on the market, so it's beating an "older cpu", for todays standards, where development is going faster then ever, since AMD launched their Ryzen cpu's. If it wasn't for AMD, we'd still be paying tons of money for a quadcore 😛

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Horus-Anhur

2021-10-12 11:54

Cinebench is a great bench to see certain arch improvements, but it barely hits the memory subsystem. And the OoO doesn't have a lot of complicated work to do. It would be interesting to see some different benchmarks. Especially games.

#5954515

Agonist

2021-10-12 12:56

Yawn

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kapu

2021-10-12 13:37

Horus-Anhur:

Cinebench is a great bench to see certain arch improvements, but it barely hits the memory subsystem. And the OoO doesn't have a lot of complicated work to do. It would be interesting to see some different benchmarks. Especially games.

Thats correct , there is little leaks with gaming tests , i wonder why.

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barbacot

2021-10-12 15:41

sykozis:

It is just cinebench...so nothing to really worry about yet. Let's see how it does in benchmarks that actually matter.

Why "worry"??? - you have shares at AMD??? There is nothing to worry about - in fact there is something to be glad - we will have two companies competing for real in consumer CPU market!

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schmidtbag

2021-10-12 15:59

I'm confused by the price. Compared to the rumored prices of the 12700K and 12900K, the 12400 is very cheap. I don't get how 2 P-cores and some extra cache can nearly double the price. Sure, the 12700K can be overclocked, in theory. In practice, I doubt anybody will squeeze much performance in.

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Makaveli

2021-10-12 20:11

tty8k:

It looks like a bare minimum, which is not too bad for $200. The test was made holding a tower air cooler on it (no retention for lga1700). Performance wise yea, faster than 5600x and only half the consumption@4ghz all core (5600x goes to around 140W+) I'd say it looks great for a budget gaming with no significant cooling required. I kind of have my doubts on that 70W in AIDA fpu avx2. It might be possible though, it's only 6 cores probably running at low voltage to achieve only 4GHz. If true, it means you can passively cool it in gaming (40W +/-)

In what application is a 5600X doing 140Watts?

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kapu

2021-10-12 20:19

Makaveli:

In what application is a 5600X doing 140Watts?

Its not doing. My is oced to 4650 no way it can do 100W even.

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SamuelL421

2021-10-12 20:26

Wait for real benchmarks and ones that matter more than cinebench. That, and also efficiency is great if want it but not the all-important stat some make it out to be. Case in point: I've got an "low-power" build with an underclocked 3950x running below eco mode. Drawing about 80-85w at 3.4-3.5 all core, it nets almost 8000 in R20 multi - sounds great on paper. In practice, not so good. Awesome efficiency for running some multicore, long-haul tasks but the tradeoff is that just about anything spanks it in single core performance and it feels slow if you try to use it as a daily driver.

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Falkentyne

2021-10-12 20:40

kapu:

Thats correct , there is little leaks with gaming tests , i wonder why.

This is the biggest change since Conroe. Arguably bigger than Sandy. (Remember we even had 6 core HT processors with Nehalem, but those processors scaled very poorly into today due to their north/south bridge and memory subsystems, while a 4c/8t 2600k can still run some titles today, though not very well). Intel has leaks locked down harder than a nuclear missile vault. AMD's 6800/6900 XT's were just as locked down since they were finally competitive again.

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Makaveli

2021-10-12 20:53

kapu:

Its not doing. My is oced to 4650 no way it can do 100W even.

I know this that is why I asked. 5600X is a 65Watt TDP with a PPT value is 88 W 5800X and above is TDP 105 PPT value is 142 W

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Makaveli

2021-10-12 23:29

tty8k:

Aida FPU AVX2

not possible even I don't hit 140watts on Aida FPU test and I have 8 cores not 6.