Core i3-10100F Integrated GPU surfaces, competition for Ryzen 3 3300X?

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3300x cannot be found anywhere. Price it right intel and you finally have a nice budget cpu.
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Finally Intel... It has 2MB less cache than my Haswell but its about 1/4 of the price. Thank Jebus for AMD and 3300x to light that flame. That is a good deal for decent work CPU and 1080p gamer system.
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Can't understand the title and the article, I think all the "F" models doesn't have a iGPU, but by the title it seems this as.
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The 3300X value was off the chart when it launched and it shows, i was able to purchase one two months ago but it's long gone...
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Valken:

Finally Intel... It has 2MB less cache than my Haswell but its about 1/4 of the price. Thank Jebus for AMD and 3300x to light that flame. That is a good deal for decent work CPU and 1080p gamer system.
How does the number of corse relates to the 1080p or higher? I think that any 4/8 core cpu will hit the same wall at any resolution when games will start to need more. 1080p or 4k won't matter. I wonder if this is a fine mame cabinet/embedded cpu
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@ asturur the minimum is 4 cores or more @ 1080p due to CPU scaling and programming requirements from developers. Even Cyberpunk 2077 lists 4 cores in their ideal, not ultra setup. At lower resolutions, the GPU can be starved or waiting for something to do, since the GPU load is LESS than CPU. But a 4c/8 thread with high IPC and good clocks would be "good enough" so long as your GPU is good enough to max out Ultra settings @ 1080p. Checkout these CPU scaling graphs for the 3080 RTX with a 4 core Haswell I4770K (same as my I4790K clock to clock really) @ both 1080p and 4K medium and ultra settings from Tom's: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/gSYF5CbsMWtvkA6Jr5b5S9-970-80.png.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Uqr5v4KLCp69twSmfuF78i-970-80.png.webp @ 1080p with a top GPU, you loose ~ 50% of potential MINIMUM FPS compared to a better CPU but at 4K https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/58eSFXJ9DjE6NYTHmzzDKR-970-80.png.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/5fAK6z2suUNXHuuPqEuxm7-970-80.png.webp You lose only ~ 18% MINIMUM FPS @ Ultra on average yet are still over 60 FPS in 4K! All games full playable with a 4 core with a good GPU @ 4K. So the question is would a better GPU + 4 core be a better gamer system or do you really need an 8 core cpu plus a medium GPU? I think the money is better spent on the better GPU, and later upgrade to a better CPU when you have a budget. The only reason I was thinking about a new CPU is mainly because the games that I play the MOST are coincidentally CPU bound (ARMA, GZDoom, Duke Nukem Source ports, Half Life 1 and 2 engine games, OpenXcom).... everything else is mostly GPU bound. I will probably put my funds towards a solid 4K GPU and upgrade to 8 core when and if a game NEEDS it. But for budget gamers, a solid 4core CPU should be their baseline with good RAM to match, such as Ryzens who benefit from it. Then get the GPU they want to target their screen resolutions.
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Wouldn't this be more of a competing part to the 3100, given the price especially?
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Valken:

@ asturur the minimum is 4 cores or more @ 1080p due to CPU scaling and programming requirements from developers. Even Cyberpunk 2077 lists 4 cores in their ideal, not ultra setup. At lower resolutions, the GPU can be starved or waiting for something to do, since the GPU load is LESS than CPU. But a 4c/8 thread with high IPC and good clocks would be "good enough" so long as your GPU is good enough to max out Ultra settings @ 1080p. Checkout these CPU scaling graphs for the 3080 RTX with a 4 core Haswell I4770K (same as my I4790K clock to clock really) @ both 1080p and 4K medium and ultra settings from Tom's: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/gSYF5CbsMWtvkA6Jr5b5S9-970-80.png.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Uqr5v4KLCp69twSmfuF78i-970-80.png.webp @ 1080p with a top GPU, you loose ~ 50% of potential MINIMUM FPS compared to a better CPU but at 4K https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/58eSFXJ9DjE6NYTHmzzDKR-970-80.png.webp https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/5fAK6z2suUNXHuuPqEuxm7-970-80.png.webp You lose only ~ 18% MINIMUM FPS @ Ultra on average yet are still over 60 FPS in 4K! All games full playable with a 4 core with a good GPU @ 4K. So the question is would a better GPU + 4 core be a better gamer system or do you really need an 8 core cpu plus a medium GPU? I think the money is better spent on the better GPU, and later upgrade to a better CPU when you have a budget. The only reason I was thinking about a new CPU is mainly because the games that I play the MOST are coincidentally CPU bound (ARMA, GZDoom, Duke Nukem Source ports, Half Life 1 and 2 engine games, OpenXcom).... everything else is mostly GPU bound. I will probably put my funds towards a solid 4K GPU and upgrade to 8 core when and if a game NEEDS it. But for budget gamers, a solid 4core CPU should be their baseline with good RAM to match, such as Ryzens who benefit from it. Then get the GPU they want to target their screen resolutions.
Definetely GPU first always, unless you want to play 120/144. In that case you have to balance cpu/resolution/gpu
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Undying:

3300x cannot be found anywhere. Price it right intel and you finally have a nice budget cpu.
It can be found . I got it with preorder for 135 EUR , which was steal, now it costs 180 EURO , almost as much as R5 3600. So this intel cpu might be perfect.
Aura89:

Wouldn't this be more of a competing part to the 3100, given the price especially?
I think availability is more important right now , and price/performance ratio.
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yeeeeman:

this is like a 6700k but at 80 bucks. My how, what the competition has done! For people that aren't interested in a million FPS gaming (and frankly most gamers target 60fps) this puppy is still quite good, but I wouldn't buy a 4 core cpu now since most certainly in a short time it will become a bottleneck. the least I would buy is a 6 core cpu.
4c/8t is FAR from being obsolete like 4c/4t is , just type in youtube : RTX 3080 + 3300x or 7700k, you still get massive 1080p performacne and at 4k , it doesnt matter almost... It is MUCH better investment to take cheaper cpu and top tier GPU . and LATER upgrade CPU , if you platform allows it . (B550 🙂 ).
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You cant OC. You cant use more than 2666mhz ram. Boring platform. Guess freedom and intel doesnt match.
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Trihy:

You cant OC. You cant use more than 2666mhz ram. Boring platform. Guess freedom and intel doesnt match.
True but they are almost same to 3300X , for COST efficient gaming rig this will be champion , there is no competition at that price point/performance. I found one in poland for 72 EUR , that is CRAZY value. [youtube=AAPq9Lthhnc] https://www.x-kom.pl/p/596730-procesor-intel-core-i3-intel-core-i3-10100f.html 72 eur. haha
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Yes, now the best value for intel is its price . Hard to believe few years ago. But if they are behind the competition, they should leave those artificial limitations behind. Hope they stop with this non sense. They are hurting themselves. The 1200 platform is a doa platform. Gen 11 doesn't look promising at all. And they will switch to another socket just a year after the release. That was fine when we had no options. But game has changed now.