Chrome version 67 Add on Site Isolation as standard for protection against Spectre
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Carfax
It will be interesting to see what kind of protections Edge and Firefox come up with, to mitigate Spectre and Meltdown. Though I think Chrome's latest protective measure will further reduce its overall efficiency vs Edge, which is easily the most efficient browser out there in terms of resource usage.
HardwareCaps
I smell performance/latency losses...
Robbo9999
I've been enabling Strict Site Isolation in Chrome for months using the chrome flags commands, and I didn't notice any difference in performance. I think the implementation is good, not a problem.
apoklyps3
How to disable it?
Labyrinth
chrome://flags/#enable-site-per-process
HonoredShadow
Does it have much effect to performance? i don't care about memory just performace being on a Intel NUC.
I'm also new to Chrome. If I paste that into the address bar does it automatically disable it? When I do paste it shows disabled in the box. So i'm guessing it's off already.
Thanks for any help.
Labyrinth
It's off for me too, the command just helps to find it quickly.
I wonder if it stays off if a PC is already protected from Spectre?
Also found this (no idea if it's true)
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3289749/browsers/chrome-more-ram-google-site-isolation-spectre-cpu-flaws.html
Koniakki
I have customized the flags to my liking but is this(haven't read upon it yet) something completely different compared to Strict Site Isolation?
Btw this will be fun to test on Chrome with 250-300 tabs consuming 15-17GB of ram! :P
GreenAlien
With this, do we still need the costly spectre microcode update?
Sylencer
It does affect performance in flash-based Games. Not by much but if you want fast loading etc.. - it makes a difference.
Fox2232
Edge? That pile of trash code? It can't even download 4GB+ files as it crashes moment this limit is reached.
asturur
Flash in 2018? that is another pile of security bugs. You do not need to protect yourself if you want to use the flash runtime
Robbo9999
I would say that 'yes', you do need the Spectre microcode too. This strict site isolation is just another layer of protection when it comes to Spectre attacks. Whether or not anyone needs Spectre protection at all is another discussion point. Some people say it's an overblown threat, and some people run with Spectre protection disabled - in terms of not running the latest microcodes or by using InSpectre to disable Spectre protection.
asturur
Can someone explain me how spectre is triggered with a website like javascript + html ?
I understood it was something about virtualization processes leaking on the host.
lucidus
I enabled it in the latest vivaldi (chrome 67) and there's a slight delay when I close a tab. No other obvious impact at least. I'll take the improved security.
WareTernal
Is this serious?
When you make blatantly false claims, attached to opinions like "trash code", it only undermines your opinion.
The fact of the matter is that Edge can download files larger than 4GB with no problems.
It's sad to continue to see posts like this, spreading false information.
If you don't like Edge that's fine, and there are legit reasons to not like it - no need to make stuff up.
Bandwagon Effect: A psychological theory where individuals will do something primarily because other individuals are doing it. It can also be referred to as herd mentality.
Fox2232
MS had limitations in place long time ago. Because they did not learn how to code stream download.
Edge caches entire download in memory and then puts it to drive. Go, download some large file and observe how it is eating memory. Even in clean release of 1803, moment Edge hits 4GB of ram, it crashes.
I did replicate this issue on 2 separate systems with different OS builds. Why? Because I wanted to download different Windows ISO from microsoft's site.
That's why you have reports like:
Unable to upload a file larger than 1.2GB
Memory leak in Edge and Internet Explorer 11
[SPOILER="Or fun like this:"][youtube=eELI2J-CpZg]
Timestamp 37:00 ~ 38:30[/SPOILER]
And best part here is way MS integrates Edge into OS. Try to uninstall it. Or reinstall it.
Carfax
I've downloaded files that were well over 4GB with Edge, so your installation must be screwed up somehow. Also the download limit you're speaking of was from way back in the 32 bit era with Internet Explorer 6 and 7. The download limit was completely removed with IE8.
As for Edge, it's my preferred browser on desktop due to its speed, efficiency and security. On mobile I use Chrome.
Aura89
Not sure what you're on about, just downloaded windows 10, the file you specifically talked about on edge (and yes, i prefer chrome), it was 4.4Gb, and had no issues downloading it. If you have a file website with something else, or something bigger, by all means i'll try it again, but Edge did not have any problems whatsoever with downloading Windows 10, 1803, english, 64bit, 4.4GB (says 4.5 on windows after downloaded, said 4.4 while downloading) ISO directly from microsoft.
https://i.imgur.com/WyDQq4O.png
https://i.imgur.com/ft8ZCXF.png
I'm also not certain what you're talking about in regards to downloading and memory, as this was at 95% of that 4.4GB download, and i watched it mostly the whole time i was downloading, compared to Chrome, which currently has imgur, guru3d and google search opened.
https://i.imgur.com/kOMQqYa.png
Fox2232
"Had" in my text meant something. Now it is not limitation preventing such action, it is crash. As for security. You probably missed advisory from MS to not use their browsers for banking. (Maybe it is outdated now, but it still tells story of MS with all its resources rather telling people to look elsewhere than push for quick fix.) MS is expert on putting bugs into fixes too.
@Aura89 : Maybe it was bit too embarrassing, therefore they fixed it. But yhat does not change a thing. It was bug present in 2018 on version released to clients.
