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3000 CL17, meh.. These will be bad for Intel but absolutely terrible for Ryzen.

Not really that bad. I have 2x 8GB 2666MHz CBX set with horrible timings for APU. But they actually run 2866MHz with CL16 and decent sub timings. And even with APU where you have to feed iGPU, difference in performance is not that noticeable. There are operations which are timing sensitive, but most of the things can't care less as long as you have 2933MHz or more. With Ryzen one has to know his voodoo around to get most of memories. So even this set may be able to do 3000MHz at CL14. You will not know until someone, who knows what kind of resistances to use for that particular kit, tests them. Edit: And Hilbert's text confirms 3200MHz with pseudo CL14. I do not think he wasted hours upon hours to tweak it. So, if you know what to do, you can do it better.

https://image.ibb.co/jWq35U/faz_melhor.png

nice looking memory... no doubt designed when memory ICs were more expensive. but with the prices dropping (about to drop like a stone), you can get low latency higher timings at the same price. if the small number of TUF board owners who decide on these want to get all matchy-matchy, rock on.