Nicely cased too https://www.audeze.com/sites/default/files/LCD-GX-Case_0.jpg They look heavy. I can't find their weight anywhere 🙁

theoneofgod:

They look heavy.

For that price, they better be.

I literally just bought Mobius as I thought it would never be bettered. Oh thank god! No 3D, No Wireless, Massive ugly cups, Heavy, dual cable. I am fine with the Mobius. This is just a pair of their audiophile ones with a mic on it.

cryohellinc:

For that price, they better be.

Up until a point. We don't want them so heavy they're uncomfortable. You'd think they'd show the weight.

That name of theirs confused me. A headphone series called LCD.

They don’t exactly look comfortable, esp. the headband and are probably heavy (as its not listed). Headphones need to evolve, surely we can do better comfort wise in 2019. All that being said though, we can’t have enough high end cans targeted towards gaming! So hope these do well as the sound they produce is probably incredible.

I have Audio-Technica ATH-AD1000X, so i don't need to change 😛 Similar experience IMhO, but TBF my set is lightweight ~260g I can game easy 2-4h straight - no fatigue. -> https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-collection/lcd-gx

I've always been a fan of Philips headphones paired with the VModa Boompro for gaming. Recently got a pair of the Fidelio X2's and it's been an awesome gaming/music combo. I was using the Philips SHP 9500's before that with the BoomPro and it was a great setup too for around a hundred bucks. The Audeze set looks nice, but I can't ever see myself spending 900 on a gaming setup. Either way, still glad to see high quality sound gear coming out instead of the overpriced stuff from the gaming companies with sub-standard sound.

sorry, but for less (up to almost half the price of these) i can get sennheisers with much better range/response, much lower thd as well and can even have a DAC coming with it.

fry178:

sorry, but for less (up to almost half the price of these) i can get sennheisers with much better range/response, much lower thd as well and can even have a DAC coming with it.

Much better response than 10Hz – 50kHz?

my bad, misread it, thought it was 10-20K. still, a thd of 0.1, when good brands do 0.01-0.05 (depending on price range), shows bigger (driver) doesnt mean better. i mean my 120$ sennheisers have 0.1 already, and above 500$, you get hand-paired drivers as well.

fry178:

my bad, misread it, thought it was 10-20K. still, a thd of 0.1, when good brands do 0.01-0.05 (depending on price range), shows bigger (driver) doesnt mean better. i mean my 120$ sennheisers have 0.1 already, and above 500$, you get hand-paired drivers as well.

Audeze is considered one of the top headphone brands.. the LCD4s are like one of the best headphones you can buy period. There is diminishing returns at the high-end and you're mostly paying for sound signatures but yeah

Still using my AKG K601. If that ever breaks down i will replace it with something similar from the line. Can wear them all day long without feeling a thing.

fry178:

my bad, misread it, thought it was 10-20K. still, a thd of 0.1, when good brands do 0.01-0.05 (depending on price range), shows bigger (driver) doesnt mean better. i mean my 120$ sennheisers have 0.1 already, and above 500$, you get hand-paired drivers as well.

I really wouldn't use the response as a comparison between headphones. Unless it's narrow as hell.

theoneofgod:

I really wouldn't use the response as a comparison between headphones. Unless it's narrow as hell.

Not to mention that one needs to see the actual graph of freq. response. And then in order to fully grasp it, one needs to be several levels above someone who compares headphones by quoting Freq. Response and THD. And anyone who can do that, he can land a job with Phillips or Audeze in no time. Yet that still won't tell him how the headphones sound to a fat guy with a pointy head, big ears and a narrow Eustachian tube. Because guess what - that freq. response was measured with mics placed on a particular artificial head. And it says little about _your_ head/torso freq. response, and much less than in the case of speakers freq. response measurement.

theoneofgod:

I really wouldn't use the response as a comparison between headphones. Unless it's narrow as hell.

fry178:

my bad, misread it, thought it was 10-20K. still, a thd of 0.1, when good brands do 0.01-0.05 (depending on price range), shows bigger (driver) doesnt mean better. i mean my 120$ sennheisers have 0.1 already, and above 500$, you get hand-paired drivers as well.

Audeze LCD vs $120 sennheiser... ROFL

Purely analogue, for listening to digital samples on a pc run through a cheap-as-chips DAC. 🙄

I've been perfectly happy with my HD650s for the past 15 years that I've had them.

@Noisiv never claimed the 120$ will sound better, just that if i want a 10 times lower thd, i can get that for much less. so you saying that these (with 0.1 THD) will sound better than other brands (not just sennheiser) in the 800-1000$$ range (that usually have thd of 0.03 or even less)?

fry178:

@Noisiv never claimed the 120$ will sound better, just that if i want a 10 times lower thd, i can get that for much less. so you saying that these (with 0.1 THD) will sound better than other brands (not just sennheiser) in the 800-1000$$ range (that usually have thd of 0.03 or even less)?

0.03 at what though? For example, the HD800's state 0.02 % (1 kHz 1 Vrms), which isn't a good usage scenario.

fry178:

@Noisiv never claimed the 120$ will sound better, just that if i want a 10 times lower thd, i can get that for much less. so you saying that these (with 0.1 THD) will sound better than other brands (not just sennheiser) in the 800-1000$$ range (that usually have thd of 0.03 or even less)?

You're putting way too much emphasis on something that ultimately isn't as important as you think it is. That's the same THD as the LCD-2 and I can honestly say that the LCD-2's are amongst the best headphones I've listened to, given they sit in your quoted $800-1000 price range I'd take them over the likes of the Sennheiser HD800 (and I'm a huge fan of Sennheiser) and many other options in that range. Honestly spec wise these are remarkably similar to the LCD-2's and are funnily enough less expensive, I'd be very interested in how the two compared in a side by side test. Edit: Seems the LCD2 Classic is less expensive.

Richard Nutman:

Purely analogue, for listening to digital samples on a pc run through a cheap-as-chips DAC. 🙄

Why the automatic assumption that the people buying this will be connecting it to cheap/poor equipment? Not everyone sticks with onboard solutions, there's a wealth of extremely good external DAC and AMP combos out there. Regardless, the DAC segment of the audio chain is one that's often heavily over rated by many. Most modern motherboards with ALC1150 or higher have perfectly functional DAC's, in fact a bunch are sporting 32 bit Sabre solutions which are often used as selling points in higher end gear. The AMP section of the chain is generally the most important, and is where most motherboards are still lagging behind. Although in fairness it's hard to find a one for all headphone AMP and people buying higher end headphones are liable to opt for an external unit anyway. As for 'digital samples', digital isn't necessarily bad as a storage medium. The problem tends to come from how it's managed, this is mainly a problem in music recordings (the loudness war is a good read for anyone interested) for various reasons. There's an infamous case regarding Metallica and their Death Magnetic album, the studio album actually sounded worse than the version on Guitar Hero (the game). http://mastering-media.blogspot.com/2008/09/metallica-death-magnetic-sounds-better.html When properly utilised digital is absolutely fine.