winner winner chicken dinner
i almost have buyer's remorse... but the ROG 42" 4k i bought @ xmas still looks stunning.
weird thing is the prices are so damn close... but pg27aqdm has the next gen panel & mla that mine doesn't
for most folks the 27" is the one i'd recommend because it's easier to drive w/ older gpu so upgrade path for gpu is longer & less expensive.
Terrible for Gamma Accuracy, and not good for colour accuracy. It might be worth trying this monitor with other presets rather than Racing Mode (even though that was the default). It would be useful to know which Preset gave the most accurate results as you'd use that a starting point for tweaking the monitor to best settings, so that might be a useful thing to include in the reviews. Who knows if one of the other Presets was bang on accurate, would be good to know for the potential buyer. Expensive monitor and probably not worth it unless one of the other Presets is close to accurate.
Terrible for Gamma Accuracy, and not good for colour accuracy. It might be worth trying this monitor with other presets rather than Racing Mode (even though that was the default). It would be useful to know which Preset gave the most accurate results as you'd use that a starting point for tweaking the monitor to best settings, so that might be a useful thing to include in the reviews. Who knows if one of the other Presets was bang on accurate, would be good to know for the potential buyer. Expensive monitor and probably not worth it unless one of the other Presets is close to accurate.
out the box 96% dci-p3 is astonishing for a "gaming" monitor.
HH stated that the dci-p3 seems to be the default value so that's you starting point.
anyone spending in this price range should calibrate because of manufacturing differences (i.e. silicon lottery for panels)
but these values are very good. the gamma does seem a bit weird but well within the market range. the mla is a big plus
you don't have to buy a Spyder to calibrate (but it's the best) this is an area to see if brick & mortar dealers have a leg up. some used to do it for free w/purchase.
out the box 96% dci-p3 is astonishing for a "gaming" monitor.
HH stated that the dci-p3 seems to be the default value so that's you starting point.
anyone spending in this price range should calibrate because of manufacturing differences (i.e. silicon lottery for panels)
but these values are very good. the gamma does seem a bit weird but well within the market range. the mla is a big plus
you don't have to buy a Spyder to calibrate (but it's the best) this is an area to see if brick & mortar dealers have a leg up. some used to do it for free w/purchase.
That gamma is totally off, no excuse for it. Still important to know which of the Presets are the closest to most accurate (Hilbert was using Racing preset), so would be valuable if that had been worked out within the review. Plenty of panels for a fraction of the price of this OLED come accurately calibrated from the factory, there's not really an excuse for poor calibration most particularly in an expensive monitor. Additionally, it's not reasonable to think that the customer does or should have a calibration meter to calibrate it (I mean I've got one, but that should not be relied on by the monitor manufacturers - and indeed they don't rely on it).
EDIT: in my mind a useful monitor review is one where the reviewer works out how to get the most accurate calibration without the customer implementing a software solution - so finding out which Preset is the most accurate (through measurements using Spyder or whatever colorimeter) and then tweaking monitor controls to calibrate it, and then reporting what those settings were to get the most accurate calibration without customers having to use a colorimeter. Of course it's also useful to measure the monitor at it's defaults as it comes from the factory too, which would be the first thing you show in the review.
EDIT#2: and for monitors that exceed sRGB but fall short of the wider gamut standards then the calibration can still be done as best as possible without shrinking the colour space to sRGB. Thinking accurate Grey Scale and Gamma, and I think you can do something to align the colours as optimally as possible towards the wider gamut standards albeit you won't reach the outer points of the colour space map (if that's the right term). And could be useful to do a seperate section on how to do a different calibration down to sRGB standards. It's all a lot more work for the reviewer but it makes it more useful to any purchasers of the panel and also gives people maximum information on the potential of the panel & if they think they want to buy it based on it's tweakability to accuracy.
The following is the best kind of monitor review in my eyes, that just happens to be the same panel (I was surprised to see it, was not my plan, I just remember I visited this site a few years ago)!
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/asus-rog-swift-oled-pg27aqdm/
I remember using similar reviews to buy a previous monitor of mine, and I don't know if it's the same site or not, but also bought my TV on the basis of similar type of review way back in 2014, lol. Maybe Hilbert doesn't want to duplicate other sites reviews of monitors, but it's useful to the consumer (especially if that particular panel has not already been measured by another site). Dunno, just my angle on what I think are the best ways to get the most from the monitor purchase decision process & also once you then own that monitor (to get the best out of it).
I have it now (Happy with it very much).
It has new LG OLED MLA Panel, 12Bit capability without problems (CRU needed for it).
SDR or HDR is just a Blast 😛
If You can -> Get it now & don't look back 😉
I have it didn't try HDR which you really don't want me to talk about
pros :
- black is black
- picture quality is excellent I didn't realize this until I launched my retextured skyrim and could see every small detail on armors and clothing, pictures I took this winter also look almost 1:1 to reality
- almost as good as BFI @240fps
- better than any TN or IPS and I consider VA gaming monitors a criminal scam VA doesn't handle motion at all so obviously better
cons :
- the back is seriously hot I clearly noticed an increase in room temp and my pc temps
- not as good as BFI at 240fps it goes from sharp to 1s blur here and there which are very noticeable
- text looks weird I don't see a double or anything you might have seen but your brain recognizes that something is off
- presets are like the ones on tvs, abominations I don't understand why and how they would have calibrated them on racing I will never use any of the presets
- I wish it had a sharpness setting just like tvs but that might be linked to their upscaling chips
since almost nobody ever saw a working BFI (99/100 monitors it doesn't work right I returned 3)
you can see the individual pixels of the alien eyes even at this speed https://www.testufo.com/framerates#count=3&background=stars&pps=1920 you don't see a blurry motion object you see a still image sliding in front of you, like VR you can only understand once you saw it...and you don't want to see it because there's no going back
it's not the oled techno fault it's a brain thing and black frame insertion is the only fix for human eyes retaining the previous frame (half the frames are black, reseting your eyes/brain)
Have you guys noticed any issues with VRR flickering? Not something that seems to be discussed in reviews but pops up quite a bit on Reddit/forum discussions etc.
Easy pass. When you can buy 49 inch superwides that are 1440p 240hz now for about $1100, why the hell would anyone buy a 16:9 anyways at this price.
the 90% of games where you don't need peripheral vision but on the contrary want to see everyting in 1 "go"
wides are not as good check reviews I didn't care but still noticed several saying it
I admit this is small I wouldn't have said no to a 16:9 32" or something
Have you guys noticed any issues with VRR flickering? Not something that seems to be discussed in reviews but pops up quite a bit on Reddit/forum discussions etc.
doesn't VRR require HDMI 2.1 ? this only has 2.0, sorry I don't have a console can't tell you more
I can add to my review above that I turned adapative sync (on off setting nothing else) almost immediately because it often overrides your game settings and chooses 120 or even 60fps with games settings doing nothing
might be good when you don't have a top tier gpu but at the same time I wouldn't recommend a 1440p monitor if you don't, upgrading from 1080p I saw my cpu temp and gpu wattts go up resolution is not free
doesn't VRR require HDMI 2.1 ? this only has 2.0, sorry I don't have a console can't tell you more
I can add to my review above that I turned adapative sync (on off setting nothing else) almost immediately because it often overrides your game settings and chooses 120 or even 60fps with games settings doing nothing
might be good when you don't have a top tier gpu but at the same time I wouldn't recommend a 1440p monitor if you don't, upgrading from 1080p I saw my cpu temp and gpu wattts go up resolution is not free
I mean yea even just using G-Sync/Free-Sync over the PC for example, apparently when there's fluctuations in frame rate you get flickering.
the 90% of games where you don't need peripheral vision but on the contrary want to see everyting in 1 "go"
wides are not as good check reviews I didn't care but still noticed several saying it
I admit this is small I wouldn't have said no to a 16:9 32" or something
Been using ultrawides and superwides since 2015. FPS and racing games, especially sim racing, they destroy 16:9. And triple monitor just arent the same anymore. Too many driver features been removed by nvidia and AMD.
Anything 16:9 flat out sucks. Has for almost a decade now.
Why would I constrain myself to see 16:9 when you can see double in the game. Seriously. Doesnt matter if its God of War, Spiderman, Battlefield, Assetto Corsa, playing an aspect ratio designed for TVs in 2006 is hilarious at this point.
wides are not as good check reviews I didn't care but still noticed several saying it I admit this is small I wouldn't have said no to a 16:9 32" or something