ASUS Introduces 29.5-Inch Curved TUF Gaming VG30VQL1A Monitor with 200Hz Refresh Rate and 1ms Response Time

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vazup:

Did you actually expect a 200hz 1440p panel in that size for 300$?
$300 USD can buy a decent 1440p 165Hz+ IPS last I checked. With the way motion looks on VAs, especially the non-Samsung ones, you're much better off with the IPS. I switched from a 240Hz Samsung Odyssey G7 (one of the very few VAs out there that doesn't have dark level smearing) to an Alienware AW3423DWF (165Hz OLED) which I run capped at 154 fps, and the difference is night and day. The motion clarity on the OLED is so much crisper that even at 100 fps it looks smoother than the Odyssey G7. IPS may not be ultra crisp like OLED, but it definitely gives a clearer image than VA, especially the non-Samsung ones which smear. Edit: Yeap, they can be had for $250. There's one listed for $200 but that isn't available so cheap anymore. So yes, fuck paying $300 USD for a 1080p VA.
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Neo Cyrus:

$300 USD can buy a decent 1440p 165Hz+ IPS last I checked. With the way motion looks on VAs, especially the non-Samsung ones, you're much better off with the IPS. I switched from a 240Hz Samsung Odyssey G7 (one of the very few VAs out there that doesn't have dark level smearing) to an Alienware AW3423DWF (165Hz OLED) which I run capped at 154 fps, and the difference is night and day. The motion clarity on the OLED is so much crisper that even at 100 fps it looks smoother than the Odyssey G7. IPS may not be ultra crisp like OLED, but it definitely gives a clearer image than VA, especially the non-Samsung ones which smear. Edit: Yeap, they can be had for $250. There's one listed for $200 but that isn't available so cheap anymore. So yes, frack paying $300 USD for a 1080p VA.
We are talking about a 21:9 monitor - you would need to find a 3440x1440 at 29.5 for 300$. There are not that much options for 23.5 1440p monitors let alone one that is 3440x1440 at 29.5"
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Neo Cyrus:

$300 USD can buy a decent 1440p 165Hz+ IPS last I checked. With the way motion looks on VAs, especially the non-Samsung ones, you're much better off with the IPS.
exactly. cheap va looks like crap in motion, you really want a premium one. look at the overshoot and black smear on this entry level gigabyte thhat sells for 400eur https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/g34wqc holy calamity, are you seeing these overshoot values ? this is my 350 eur ips (not uw though) https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q
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vazup:

We are talking about a 21:9 monitor - you would need to find a 3440x1440 at 29.5 for 300$. There are not that much options for 23.5 1440p monitors let alone one that is 3440x1440 at 29.5"
You're missing the crux of the conversation; 1080p at that size is horrific eye-cancer inducing miasma, made even worse by being a VA... I don't think you know what dark level smearing is. It could be 480Hz and I still wouldn't ever consider using it. No one in the right mind would take a 2560x1080 200Hz VA over a 2560x1440 165Hz+ IPS. It doesn't matter that you can't find X, Y, or Z at $300, that doesn't justify paying $300 for a pile of shit. And no shit UW1440p doesn't commonly come in 29.5"; the equivalent of 1440p 27" in UW form is 34".
cucaulay malkin:

exactly. cheap va looks like crap in motion, you really want a premium one. look at the overshoot and black smear on this entry level gigabyte thhat sells for 400eur https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/g34wqc holy calamity, are you seeing these overshoot values ?
I'm more surprised they'd give its whopping 0 HDR ability a 6.9/10.
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Thats the thing some people prefer some smearing over 1000 contrast ratio or in a lot of cases even less than that on IPS panels and there are people that would pay more for a 29" ultrawide version of a 1440p to get in that size and the guy was complaining that its a 1080p for 300$ when 1440p in that size don't even exist. My point is that there are people that would pay quite a bit more to get a decent 29.5" 3440x1440 monitor for better PPI than a 34" or just desk space and it wasnt IPS vs VA it was just the resolution that he mentioned not sure why you started with the panel type when it wasnt in the discussion.
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I believe the 1ms response, but, BUT VA panels and ghosting/smearing are always good friend.
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paolo_p:

I believe the 1ms response
Don't, because it's not true. The 1ms response is always lies when it comes to anything but OLED currently.
vazup:

Thats the thing some people prefer some smearing over 1000 contrast ratio or in a lot of cases even less than that on IPS panels and there are people that would pay more for a 29" ultrawide version of a 1440p to get in that size and the guy was complaining that its a 1080p for 300$ when 1440p in that size don't even exist. My point is that there are people that would pay quite a bit more to get a decent 29.5" 3440x1440 monitor for better PPI than a 34" or just desk space and it wasnt IPS vs VA it was just the resolution that he mentioned not sure why you started with the panel type when it wasnt in the discussion.
LOL who? You're talking about some mythological group that doesn't exist. Prefer smearing? Now I'm absolutely sure you've never seen it. No one says "I prefer a completely screwed up image that makes it harder to play games, and in fact defeats the purpose of even trying to look at something". Are you going to tell me next that there's a group of people who would pay top dollar to play without a monitor and use their imagination? Because right now you're arguing there's people who prefer not to use their eyes. Again, at UW1440p, it's 34" to match a 16:9 27".
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Bless you since only you know what everyone prefers. Again not sure why you keep bringing up a 34" monitor since this page thread is for a 29" monitor and a guy was complaining that its only 1080p - unless he was expecting a 1440p variant in 29" size and that would be a first of its kind.
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vazup:

Bless you since only you know what everyone prefers. Again not sure why you keep bringing up a 34" monitor since this page thread is for a 29" monitor and a guy was complaining that its only 1080p - unless he was expecting a 1440p variant in 29" size and that would be a first of its kind.
This forum is full of ignorance and if its not my taste it sucks mentality. Especially the level of ignorance of people who dont own ultawides not knowing 1080p 29 inch has a good PPI for being 1080p, its the 34 inch 1080p ones that suck. I have owned single 25 inch 1080p, triple 25 inch 1080p, 29 inch 1080p, 34 inch 1080p, 35 inch 1440p, 49 inch 1080p, and now 49 inch 1440p. Only thing I havent owned was any kind of 3840x1600p or 3840x1200p 32:10 ultrawides. Been using UWs since 2015. @Neo Cyrus 49 inch superwides are also dual 27 inch. 1080p or 1440p. I dont get why most cant grasp that a 29 inch UW is just a wider 23 inch, and 34 inch UW are a wider 27inch. You seem to be one of the few on here not ignorant about monitors, not Ultrawides.
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vazup:

Bless you since only you know what everyone prefers. Again not sure why you keep bringing up a 34" monitor since this page thread is for a 29" monitor and a guy was complaining that its only 1080p - unless he was expecting a 1440p variant in 29" size and that would be a first of its kind.
My bad, I didn't know people prefer not seeing what's on their screen. You can't seem to grasp the concept that 29" 1440p ultrawides aren't really a thing, there's 0 coming. @Agonist There are no upcoming 29" UWs that are 1440p.
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2560x1080 is fine for this size the VA part is what is a deal breaker!
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Neo Cyrus:

$300 USD can buy a decent 1440p 165Hz+ IPS last I checked. With the way motion looks on VAs, especially the non-Samsung ones, you're much better off with the IPS. I switched from a 240Hz Samsung Odyssey G7 (one of the very few VAs out there that doesn't have dark level smearing) to an Alienware AW3423DWF (165Hz OLED) which I run capped at 154 fps, and the difference is night and day. The motion clarity on the OLED is so much crisper that even at 100 fps it looks smoother than the Odyssey G7. IPS may not be ultra crisp like OLED, but it definitely gives a clearer image than VA, especially the non-Samsung ones which smear. Edit: Yeap, they can be had for $250. There's one listed for $200 but that isn't available so cheap anymore. So yes, frack paying $300 USD for a 1080p VA.
I just got the lg oled 240hz 27inches 1440p coming from the g7 240 hz 1440p and yess its night and day difference for motion clarity, the lg oled is sensationnal for gaming