ARM Co-Founder Says: Selling ARM to NVIDIA would be a disaster
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fantaskarsef
Explaining why he'd think it's a bad idea, quoted from the BBC source article:
So, basically he's afraid that Nvidia will have more influence over ARM, and that they will abuse that power for their own goals, like... a company paying billions for another one. Sadly, he's right, because that's why you buy a company like ARM, for obvious market position.
Also, he wishes that the [UK] government helps to get the company to remain as independent as possible, maybe even with money. Well... I doubt that will happen, with the UK being US buddies and all.
RooiKreef
Given the fact that ARM is dealing with companies like Google that is for the open source community, this is totally against anything Nvidia touches. That is in my opinion why this will be a disastrous decision to sell it to Nvidia. They just don't do business in the way ARM does period. So if anyone still think about the future of ARM then you better hope Nvidia doesn't get hold of them.
cryohellinc
Knowing how Nvidia works (especially as of late) - I think it will be in the best interest of everyone, especially on the consumer side, for Nvidia not to purchase ARM.
moo100times
I mean, I agree completely, and looking at Nvidia operates and their business model, I am suspicious of the same things.
It does not surprise me that their shareholders would be pushing for this deal, both for proprietary business but also for broader ownership links of:
Huawei with Tencent for ARM based cloud gaming, Nvidia for AI cloud based solutions for same company. Likely ARM as the architecture to link them all, and with recent US restrictions on foreign investment, IP restrictions, this might be a broader game at play to circumvent some of these restrictions
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/tencent-cloud-adopts-nvidia-tesla-for-ai-cloud-computing
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tencent-huawei-games/tencent-to-develop-cloud-game-platform-with-huawei-idUSKBN21E0BV
https://cntechpost.com/2020/03/27/tencent-games-and-huawei-build-gamematrix-cloud-gaming-platform/
And whether the cofounder agrees or not, has already been sold once to Softbank so I am not sure what rights he still has.
Andy Watson
Hopefully a big UK tech company like Ineos can buy it with it staying in the UK ( we need the jobs like every country at the moment) and it can still be independent from other cpu / IP tech companies.
H83
Obvious! ARM should be bought and manteined by an UK/EU company or holding like i already said in another thread. The fact that a company like this may be bought by an american company is simply ridiculous!
Kaarme
ruthan
I dont think that Nvidia is here to blame..
Nvidia is moving here, because stupid Intel X86 licensing and patents laws, they cant buy cpu own x86 license regardless of money. They have plenty money, need own cpus and ARM successful company to buy.
If someone from ARM not want to bought by Nvidia, they shouldnt in first place be no stock market - because be on stock market, means that money are always most important.. and any bla, bla around it is just hypocrisy.
Its hard to tell what Nvidia will do:
a) for them could be ARM just like Steam for Valve or Android for Google, they could be fine with present licencing for everyone, because of profit..
or
2) yes they could lock it down to proprietary technology, but doubt it.. because they will loose lots of profit... and i general they will decrease important of all ARM platform.. to it make not much sense
What is most import with ARM in its pocket and their resources, they could finally fight Intel and AMD with.. because present Samsung ARM Pc machines are joke for WinIntel market.. with some Nvidia ARM APU things could change, Nvidia has great track record from success point of view. Some for consoles where AMD x86 is ruling now.
Kaotik
schmidtbag
Kaarme
Mineria
fredgml7
I believe none of the big chip makers should be allowed to buy ARM.
nevcairiel
H83
Andrew LB
So many sweeping generalizations about how bad nVIdia's business model is... you'd think they would only have 18% of the GPU market if that were the case. If the UK wants to prevent the sale, they're more in their right to do that, but this talk about the government funding the company is about the worst thing that can happen. Introducing government funding of ARM would likely be illegal due to its anti-competitive nature, giving them the distinct advantage of being able to function without being profitable, it would also effectively bar any potential competition. Nobody would enter the market or compete against a company with unlimited government funds backing them up. This practice of "picking winners and losers" is the worst kind of crony corporatism.
Andrew LB
TrevorK
This is easy! Pony-up the most US$ to buy it! 8-]
Maddness
I was reading a rumor earlier that TSMC maybe throwing their hat in the ring too.
LtPessimist
It was a great shame when it was sold to Japanese SoftBank Group Corp., but the EU would not let the UK government bail it out. Shame on the EU as many other companies in Europe have been bailed out, but they don't allow the UK to do that for any of our companies.