That is remarkably unimpressive and I am thoroughly underwhelmed. I see a ThreadRipper in my future.

I am literally getting Prescott flashbacks. Let's hope there's a Conroe around the corner.

karma777police:

Will smoke Zen 3 in gaming.

yep... but the amd fanboys will cry about TDP, nano meter, 7zip performance etc...

It certainly looks like it will smoke.

Clock speed beyond 4ghz dont mean anything to me anymore STP is not issue on Intel or AMD at this point, and fact most thing going forward will care more MTP means more to me

Don't forget guys: dozens of security vulnerabilities included.

Who dont like swiss cheese??

RL will do what it's meant to do, take back the gaming crown and serve as a stop-gap until Alder Lake. That's all it's supposed to be, and it shouldn't be treated as anything else. This isn't the CPU that's going to take the fight to AMD, and that's perfectly fine. It's enough to coast on for another six months as they get their ducks in a row. Obviously AMD isn't going just twiddle their thumbs and do nothing in the mean time (5950XT, anyone?), but IIRC they won't have a direct counter to AL until Q1 22.

mackintosh:

RL will do what it's meant to do, take back the gaming crown and serve as a stop-gap until Alder Lake. That's all it's supposed to be, and it shouldn't be treated as anything else. This isn't the CPU that's going to take the fight to AMD, and that's perfectly fine. It's enough to coast on for another six months as they get their ducks in a row. Obviously AMD isn't going just twiddle their thumbs and do nothing in the mean time (5950XT, anyone?), but IIRC they won't have a direct counter to AL until Q1 22.

I disagree. In my opinion intel lost the fight since Zen1 and Zen2 already. We were always talking about single-core preferences that were a bit better on intel, yet within frames per second ranges that were beyond total of 100fps anyway so it wouldn't even matter that intel was faster in single core threads for a long time. By the time Zen1 was released, intel struggled with architecture security issues and it has become even worse from time to time. Since Meltdown and Spectre, I do avoid intel at all costs. Right now things like Foreshadow and Zombieload are being executed even by backdoors, that makes me avoid intel even more. I guess intel was able to push the speed at the costs of security and that's a no-no in my opinion. Due to that I have come to the point were I don't care any more about who is faster (AMD or Intel). Intel its CPUs are literally broken. In IT we always say that your security measurements are only that strong like the weakest spot in your system. Do you really want to play games, manage your personal files and login to your accounts with a computer that can be easily compromised ? If your answer is yes, then fine, go with intel if you wish so.

especially after zen 2 ...does it even matter the gaming perf ? any zen2 or zen 3 6+core and any intel 6 core + is an awesome gaming cpu .... deciding to cpu cause one cpu gives 5 more fps on a game ....where your cpu already can push 100 and 200 fps if it is not cpu bound ... straight up does not matter ... honestly i saw on black friday 9900k cpus going for 300 usd or so .... now those where awesome value

karma777police:

Will smoke Zen 3 in gaming.

pathetic XD

mackintosh:

RL will do what it's meant to do, take back the gaming crown and serve as a stop-gap until Alder Lake. That's all it's supposed to be, and it shouldn't be treated as anything else. This isn't the CPU that's going to take the fight to AMD, and that's perfectly fine. It's enough to coast on for another six months as they get their ducks in a row. Obviously AMD isn't going just twiddle their thumbs and do nothing in the mean time (5950XT, anyone?), but IIRC they won't have a direct counter to AL until Q1 22.

I will be very surprised if Intel manages to launch Alder Lake in 2021...

Gomez Addams:

That is remarkably unimpressive and I am thoroughly underwhelmed. I see a ThreadRipper in my future.

Why? If you where considering rocket lake you weren't ever considering threadripper lol Maybe you mean Vermeer

Intel's best weapon against AMD is that the AMD CPUs are unavailable. I guess it wasn't such a disastrous decision for Intel to keep their own production facilities, after all. If AMD still had GF and it was consequently still fully involved in the nm race, the 5000 series CPUs and 6000 series GPUs would actually be more normally available for purchase.

11700K next year then!

I can't understand how someone would be more than happy to pay (at least) $800+ for a CPU and a MB every generation just to get 5~10 FPS over the competition and have the guts to call others "AMD fanboys" not to mention the security issues that comes for free with the $800+

Looks like it will deliver more performance as a heater than as a cpu. Backported designs rarely work out well.

I'm liking my options for 10900F or 10700F if RKL fails Frankly I'd happily shed out the money now,waiting can prove expensive when shortages hit,and 10900F costs just a little premium over 5600x atm here in PL,10700F is almost a steal for a 8/16 gaming cpu. Tho I would really like to wait and see.A 8/16 i7 may be very fast for gaming.

Abd0:

I can't understand how someone would be more than happy to pay (at least) $800+ for a CPU and a MB every generation just to get 5~10 FPS over the competition and have the guts to call others "AMD fanboys" not to mention the security issues that comes for free with the $800+

as long as he knows he is an intel fanboy,yeah,I can uderstand it. it's those who are in denial that need help. and btw this goes both ways...... I've a friend,bought a 5900x for his gaming setup though he initially wanted a 8/16 he doubled down seeing how ridiculously expensive it is for a gaming cpu he bought an even more expensive one cause he said cost per core is lower,then he realized his 5900x took out his whole cpu+mobo budget,so he doubled down again and got a rog ch board that he has to pay for in installments. It's just sad given how he already wanted to upgrade since z390+9900k came out,been waiting for amd cpus not only to undermine in gaming and smash them in cost per frame.While we can agree the former one is where zen 3 delivers,the latter is far from what we expected price wise.Yet he is in complete denial and trolls a forum where we met.He always made some good points about amd delivering bang for the buck and intel being arrogant snobs,about making decisions that are not against your own economical interest no matter what brand you like.Been preaching for years,then paid ridiculous money for his own setup.

Intel´s CPUs are already fast enough, in terms of clocks, what they need now is to improve the IPC considerably to compete against Ryzen.

No point in these processors even existing. Intel has nothing of value until they release Alder Lake 10nm with PCIE 5.0 and DDR5 RAM support.