Are retail samples of the R9 290X clocking down too much ?

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Its already been proven that the aftermarket cooler is fully to blame for this. Other sites have tested with other coolers and found large temp drops.
Yeah, was it a HIS ICEQ2? temps dropped to mid 60s with that. Great cards once custom coolers are available. Edit: darkest beat me to it :P
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Why would you buy a Titan when you can buy a 780 and OC it or buy an OC'd card with a custom cooler and have it deliver better performance than a Titan but for a much lower price point. The 780 is now cheaper than the 290x too thanx to that well timed price drop. With their card only being downclocked by like 10%, the 290x doesn't have a lot of power left in it even if it was water cooled. I doubt the thing could be OC'd much any ways.
The unlocked 780s are around the same price as the 290x, the 780s i would consider are same if not more (classy). The 290 is 100$ cheaper than the 780. Both the 290x and 290 are voltage unlocked as well. The 290x has plenty of power left in it when cooled properly hence the 1300/1500 benches on OCN. Speaking of the 290 Gibbo had his at 1200 on the core. OverclockersUK It's yet to be revealed how much OCing headroom there will be for hawaii but i think it's going to be much like the Tahiti 1200 on the core on water, golden samples will be hitting 1300. And most should be able to hit around 1000mhz-1125mhz on air with aftermarket cooling. If one thing has been proven it's that the stock heatsink is completely inadequate for the card. Temps are pretty normal on water.
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Why do people think its ok to put a card on the market knowing full well the cooling is a joke & have to spend more money on after market cooling.AMD should give there heads a shake for releasing such cheap crap.
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Because Fermi was about just as warm, and if they developed a proper reference cooler like Titan it would at least be 50$ more. Precisely why i waited to pick my 470 when aftermarket cooling solutions came out. It's really not that big of a deal just wait for custom cooling solutions or go get one and do it yourself. 290x @ 1315/1500 FS Graphics score 14101 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1095810 FSE Graphics score 6600 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1560550 1330/1600 http://cdn.overclock.net/7/75/900x900px-LL-759a4f25_00000.png 1320/1700 http://cdn.overclock.net/6/6c/900x900px-LL-6c67cffa_00001.png
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Nvidia does the same, but already at 70C. In that case it's only a few MHz, though, not hundreds.
You show me a factory card that does throttle my 670 FTW would not throttle until I did the bios mod to increase voltage and it had a reference 680 cooler.
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You show me a factory card that does throttle my 670 FTW would not throttle until I did the bios mod to increase voltage and it had a reference 680 cooler.
One of mine throttles down 20MHz or so when it's hotter than 70C. It's annoying as hell.
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The GPU itself is fast and the price is great but the card suffers from having a noisy, inefficient cooler and the card gets way too hot for my liking. I certainly would not want a card that gets to 95 C and stays there in my case! Hell, I got nervous when my GTX 780 hit 80 C! As others have pointed out this is like NVIDIA's GTX 480 all over again. :3eyes:
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Why do people think its ok to put a card on the market knowing full well the cooling is a joke & have to spend more money on after market cooling.AMD should give there heads a shake for releasing such cheap crap.
Nobody tell you to buy aftermarket cooler, just choose a card from partner, MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, HIS, etc... do you see many peoples in this forums with reference cooler ? most are DCII, lighting, etc etc.. For peoples who use H2o and want be sure to obtain best pwm ( power management ), reference gpu is good anyway.. ( in general i buy reference cards, because im nearly sure they use the reference pwm ( or you can choose a specific model with modified PCB like the MSI lightning. )..
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The GPU itself is fast and the price is great but the card suffers from having a noisy, inefficient cooler and the card gets way too hot for my liking. I certainly would not want a card that gets to 95 C and stays there in my case! Hell, I got nervous when my GTX 780 hit 80 C! As others have pointed out this is like NVIDIA's GTX 480 all over again. :3eyes:
If the water results are evident of anything we should see the temps drop a good 20C with better cooling. There is also that guy who put the HIS heatsink on it and got it in the 60s gaming? They basically took Tahiti's reference cooler and slapped it on hawaii..not gonna work lol.
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Ok so you're absolutely throttling the card with a synthetic benchmark, ON QUIET MODE, and getting a small percentage performance drop in order to keep the card cooler, WITH A REFERENCE COOLER. Switch it to uber mode, the card doesn't crash or have any performance issues @ 95 degrees. nVidia fans, realize that these cards are absolutely selling out of stock as soon as they show up at any retailer, and nVidia doesn't rule the market anymore, and the fanboys are coming off as butthurt. Hilbert thanks for this article, I actually was worried about this rumor, but it doesn't seem to hold up at all, the card is on quiet mode for God's sake.
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"blowing this way out of propertion" Looks like this is indeed AMD's 480. The non-reference cards need to get here fast!
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Mine has been on uber mode since day one and It does not down clock and tbh it's not much louder than my old stock 680.
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Hilbert thanks for this article, I actually was worried about this rumor, but it doesn't seem to hold up at all, the card is on quiet mode for God's sake.
because nobody would touch this garbage on uber mode.
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You show me a factory card that does throttle my 670 FTW would not throttle until I did the bios mod to increase voltage and it had a reference 680 cooler.
damn I have a hissy fit when my cards hit 70-72c and throttle 13mhz. no way in hell I would buy any card that is intended to run at 95c. even my 480 on stock cooler would go up to about 88c max, that think had 0 overclockability on that cooler
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One of mine throttles down 20MHz or so when it's hotter than 70C. It's annoying as hell.
Your top one no doubt. This is to be expected as it is pulling hot air off the backside of your bottom card. Bet if you ran just one of your cards at stock under the same conditions as this it would not throttle. Oh and BTW AMD fans that are taking this as good news, throttling 150Mhz is still a drop of 15% when a Kepler throttles it's normally no more than 26Mhz or les than 3% just a bit of context. Also this is not even overclocked this kind of thing may be okay for y'all "because it's such a great deal" but the fact still remains that throttling that much is not acceptable. Just my .02
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because nobody would touch this garbage on uber mode.
Did SLI make a new account 🙂
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Your top one no doubt. This is to be expected as it is pulling hot air off the backside of your bottom card. Bet if you ran just one of your cards at stock under the same conditions as this it would not throttle. Oh and BTW AMD fans that are taking this as good news, throttling 150Mhz is still a drop of 15% when a Kepler throttles it's normally no more than 26Mhz or les than 3% just a bit of context. Also this is not even overclocked this kind of thing may be okay for y'all "because it's such a great deal" but the fact still remains that throttling that much is not acceptable. Just my .02
top defo. stock voltage it drops 13mhz, unlocked voltage the top card downclocks to 1228 (54mhz). if I reverse the cards it will drop to 1202 for some reason. I just flashed my cards to unlocked last week now runs constant 1280.
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Did SLI make a new account 🙂
nah, SLI has nothing to hide 🙂