AOC AGON AG273Q Available in Free and G-Sync
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Mesab67
Just wondering - for Nvidia to allow Freesync on an Nvidia gfx card (recent announcement) does the monitor also require to have a G-Sync module?
fantaskarsef
The difference between Freesync and Gsync is essentially the module in the back. The thing is, now they don't need the Gsync module to support variable refresh rates.
I wonder how many of those screens with Gsync they will sell compared to Freesync these days...
allesclar
I chose my laptop without the G-sync option due to cost, that cost being an extra £200. Could not justify it.
This news is a move in the right direction for me at least and many many others 🙂
Wrinkly
Picked up a ASUS GL703GS (1070 with a 17.3" G-Sync 144Hz panel) during the Black Friday sales from scan.co.uk for £1499. Looked like a great sale price, otherwise I would have skipped G-Sync.
Maddness
Generally with the same panel, The only difference is the G-Sync panel tends to have a larger VRR range. Other than that, the majority will now opt for the A-Sync panel i would suspect. For G-Sync to really stay relative, Nvidia needs to lower the cost of there G-Sync Chip.
fantaskarsef
... which probably won't happen. I agree with you, only that I can't see that Nvidia will charge less for the chips. Are they still coming for the price of around 150$ / module? If they drop it to say 100$ per module, Freesync screens will probably still be cheaper.
The only thing saving Nvidia is that with RTX on, they could force framerates below Freesync's threshold, where Gsync might still work. 😀
Kaarme
To be honest, I might be predicting utterly wrong, but I could imagine there would remain premium screens with the genuine G-sync, but anything even a bit more affordable might become only Freesync (vesa adaptive). As it is, there are already cheapo Freesync and good Freesync screens, based on how much one is willing to pay. Thus it might be that the G-sync chip price (license fee) wouldn't necessarily drop, it would only be limited to monitors that would anyway cost a lot.
metagamer
The thing is, the cheapest Freesync monitor on OcUK that offers what I need from my monitor (27", IPS, 144hz, 1440p) costs £550. And a really solid Gsync monitor with all of the above costs £548.
Maybe I'm just very specific about what I want from my monitor but for me, this is irrelevant news. To many it'll be great though, if Freesync monitors offer better value for them.
Denial
None of the G-Sync compatible monitors support variable OD and according to this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/afqnei/nvidia_vs_amd_gpus_when_used_with_an_adaptivesync/
Only one Freesync monitor supports it - Nixeus EDG 27
It would also appear all G-Sync monitors VRR range start at 1Hz now.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/
So there still seems to be some differences - now whether those are worth $100 is another story.
Fediuld
No Gsync laptop has gsync module. All are using adaptive sync also.
waltc3
I have neither Freesync nor Gsync and oddly enough don't miss either in the slightest...;)
Maddness
I don't know if you have ever tried either. But i can tell you, they are well worth having. For me it was always more about the smoothness more so than the screen tearing. At the moment though I'm using an LG OLED so neither sync for me.
Agonist
I can not give up my freesync monitor.
Playing on an identical 21:9 without it using the same rig is night and day. I cant stand not using freesync with enhanced sync.
yasamoka
Enhanced Sync kills the point of FreeSync as soon as your framerate exceeds your refresh rate.
FPS < refresh rate: almost same input lag as V-Sync OFF, smooth, no tearing
FPS ~ refresh rate: almost same input lag as V-Sync ON, smooth, no tearing
FPS > refresh rate: almost same input lag as V-Sync ON, severe jitter, no tearing
FPS >>> refresh rate: noticeable input lag (higher than V-Sync OFF, lower than ON), more jitter than when in FreeSync range, no tearing
Instead of capping framerate below refresh rate and making all cases:
FPS < refresh rate: almost same input lag as V-Sync off, smooth, no tearing
Why..?
Agonist
When using enhanced with freesync, its only needed when dropping below your max refresh rate.
BF1, I only use enhanced sync, but freesync off cause I dont like capped framerate for online games.
My monitor is overclocked to 80hz from 60 and has a range of 32-80hz freesync. In games that do drop below 80fps, for me enhanced sync+freesync is amazing. Especially in Forza Horizion 3 where I can drop all the way down to 46 fps or be pushing 100fps. When above 80 fps, the frame drops are less noticable, not referring to input lag. Also I never see any screen tearing ever when even just doing enhanced sync.
yasamoka
Enhanced Sync has no advantages or effect over plain (fake) triple buffering (flip queue - which the vast majority of games supports) when FPS < refresh rate.
1) increases input lag considerably unless you're doing very high framerates on BF1 (which is doubtful given the CPU bottleneck that tends to kick in eventually)
2) introduces jitter due to dropped frames from FPS > refresh rate
As soon as your framerate rises above 80FPS, you're objectively getting a worse experience than just under 80FPS (e.g. 77FPS) - jitter and extra input latency.
Still don't understand why you'd do such a thing given you have a FreeSync monitor.
