AMD Zen to get three perf tiers and sits at the €200 marker
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-Tj-
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So ~ 350€ for 8core? Seems to good to be true 🤓
icedman
Doesn't that price put it at roughly the same pricing as Intel?
Denial
No one can say because the graph is incredibly vague. It says >$200 on the side. The cheapest Intel 8 core part is $1000.
Lane
Indeed, the arrow seems indicate more a "starting at" 200$ .
PrMinisterGR
The question is what kind of part starts at $200. If the minimum is an octocore, then the price sounds more than reasonable. And even if it's a quad with HT, it's already 35% cheaper than an equivalent i7.
Anarion
I'm pretty sure that they will try to match Intel pricing but try to offer a bit more. I.e. against i7 they have 8c/16t variant, against i5 they have 8c without SMT and against i3 they have 4c/8t variant. Or something similar like that. Since these do not have integrated GPU the size should be comparable to Intel products. Also considering that AMD wants market share for sure and Intel no doubt has large margins I don't see how these would cost more than the Intel alternatives (especially since clock for clock Zen is going to be behind). Something like 300-350€ for the 8c/16t variant seems reasonable.
PrMinisterGR
The 6700k is 1.75Bn transistors with the GPU, which is larger than the CPU. They can easily offer more in an even smaller package, if there is no GPU integrated. But I can't see them offering a true 8-core for $200. I can see them make i5s irrelevant with a 4/8 part with similar IPC at that price though.
Anarion
Yep, that's why they can offer more at the same price. I can see quad core Zen being closer to 200 €. The'll likely pit their 8-core with SMT against i7 and offer similar pricing.
BLEH!
Assuming the 4C/8T part is comparable to a 4790K or similar, for $200 that'd be killer. The 8C/16T part is more along the lines of the 5960X, although only dual channel RAM instead of quad channel. AMD has the advantage of 2 x 115X number of PCIe lanes, however.
nz3777
There goes that greed we talked about! $200 for a 4/8 thread zen fine ok but how much for 8/16 Zen? They cannot expect to sell at same price point intel sold 5960x at $1000 dollars- I am almost sure nobody will buy it! I guess we have to wait and see, the most I would pay is $300 usd for ANY amd cpu I dont care if it has 1,000 cores! lol
VENGEANCE
go read online...the 8 core will be 300$ and the overclockable 8 core will cost more as they are binned..
the 200-300$ range is for the quad cores and the equavalent i3's
Prince Valiant
I wouldn't be surprised if an 8c/16t product sat around the $400 range. Intel is still gouging for such CPUs last I knew.
LimitbreakOr
That's your problem buddy... AMD should sell it as expensive as possible for profitability. Obviously it won't be 1000$ if it performs nearly identically as it only has dual channel ram. AMD is not a charity organization and need to return to profitability which ever way that is possible for maximum results. If it performs identically but on a less expensive motherboard, 800$USD would be a perfect price for such a product.
Koniakki
+1
That would be a killer offering! I hope the hardware gods hear you! :P
Any specific links for this to read or even better, AMD confirming this?
schmidtbag
I wish they offered a 6c/12t CPU, or an 8c/8t. Seems like the sweet spot to me. I personally like having enough cores to suit any game's demands, while having a couple extra spares for anything that runs in the background. But, I get the impression most modern games for current-gen consoles likely only use 6 threads since the system handles so much more in the background. That being said, if Zen ends up being good enough I figure the 4c/8t will be the best choice for me.
Let's just hope there will be enough of an upgrade path. It seems they intend to release a socket AM4+. It'd be crappy if there are AM4+ CPUs that won't work in AM4 motherboards.
Embra
I don't think there is going to be a 6 core chips, looks to be groups of 4 cores.
Anarion
They can because there is no competition.
fry178
Since i will be selling my 3770k rig next month and we still dont have "real world" numbers, and Q1 can be the 2nd of jan or the 30th of march.
not gonna wait that long without a computer.
MC now has the 6 core for 310 (xeon) and 330 (i7), the board will be around 2-250 (so not really much more than what i would spend on AM4).
i can get that right now, and enjoy quad channel as well, and (most likely) better sata3/usb3/3.1/network performance as well (vs zen).
which will have to assume, given that the last time amd was able to match/beat intel, was before they went quad core.
and no, i dont get paid by intel and was actually running amd cpus only, from 1GHz athlon till 8350.
schmidtbag
I don't get it - why sell your current rig if you plan on going Intel again? Seems like a major loss to you. There aren't any CPUs today that are a whole lot better than what you have now unless you're willing to spend a lot on extra cores. The rest of your system seems good too.
Koniakki
Well, unless needed for rendering or other specific cpu intensive needs, your rig looks absolutely fine imho.
If possible, maybe take that sweet 3770k 6-7 notches up and you are all set.
But if you are set on selling it next month and mostly interested just in gaming(just assuming) I heartily recommend the 6700k. :thumbup:
