GloFo is on the rise kind of atm and doing joint work with samsung towards 14nm is a good thing.

So is amd going straight to 14nm 😯 or stopping at 20nm for a while and then full steam ahead with 14. Seems like everyone is ready to just drop 20 😀

I dont think 14nm FinFet will be ready for high performance (HP) processors on the end of 2015.. 20nm > 16nm Finfet.. or maybe they are able to go quickler to 16nm than with TSMC..

well supposedly everyone was saying 390x will be 20nm i'm skeptical tho

Is this good or bad? i thought AMD was royally screwed hard by glofo.

While Nvidia is stuck at 28nm next year, AMD will be on 20nm? The next year after that when Nvidia starts production on 16nmFinFET, AMD with the help of Samsung will start production on the 14nm process?

Nvidia stuck at 28nm next year? Where did you read that "nonsense"? Nvidia is going to use TSMC's 16nm FinFET and therefore will probably skip 20nm. TSMC talked to the Dutch ASML for manufacturing equipment. It's expected that the first chips arrive somewhere mid 2015. ps: yes, I did make an account for this post 🙂

TSMC 16FinFET Plus Process Achieves Risk Production Milestone Issued by: TSMC Issued on: 2014/11/12 Hsinchu, Taiwan, R.O.C. – November 12, 2014 – TSMC (TWSE: 2330, NYSE: TSM) today announced its 16-nanometer FinFET Plus (16FF+) process is now in risk production. This enhanced version of TSMC’s 16FF process operates 40% faster than the company’s planar 20-nanometer system-on-chip (20SoC) process, or consumes 50% less power at the same speed. It offers customers a new level of performance and power optimization targeted at the next generation of high-end mobile, computing, networking, and consumer applications. TSMC’s 16nm process offers an extended scaling of advanced SoC designs and is verified to reach speeds of 2.3GHz with ARM’s “big” Cortex®-A57 in high-speed applications while consuming as little as 75mW with the “LITTLE” Cortex-A53 in low-power applications. It is making excellent progress in yield learning, and has achieved the best technology maturity at the same corresponding stage as compared to all TSMC's previous nodes. "Our successful ramp-up in 20SoC has blazed a trail for 16FF and 16FF+, allowing us to rapidly offer a highly competitive technology to achieve maximum value for customers’ products,” said TSMC President and Co-CEO, Dr. Mark Liu. “We believe this new process can provide our customers the right balance between performance and cost so they can best meet their design requirements and time-to-market goals.” TSMC’s comprehensive 16FF+ design ecosystem supports a wide variety of EDA tools and hundreds of process design kits with more than 100 IPs, all of which have been silicon validated. Backed by the resources of the biggest design ecosystem in the industry, TSMC and its customers are starting intensive design engagements, paving the way for future product tape-outs, pilot activities and early sampling. The 16FF+ process is on track to pass full reliability qualification later in November, and nearly 60 customer designs are currently scheduled to tape out by the end of 2015. Due to rapid progress in yield and performance, TSMC anticipates 16FF+ volume ramp will begin around July in 2015. "TSMC 16FF+ process technology enables Avago to design highly optimized custom silicon solutions for networking applications in cloud datacenters and enterprise networks,” said Hock Tan, President and CEO of Avago Technologies Limited. “TSMC’s 16FF+ process technology in combination with Avago’s industry leading SerDes, memory, processor cores, and design implementation techniques deliver unparalleled time-to-market, performance and power benefits to OEM customers.” "Sixteen-nanometer FinFET Plus technology provides compelling performance per watt advantages, enabling a myriad wave of market inflection points such as Internet of Things, 5G networks and software defined networks,” said Tom Deitrich, Senior Vice President and General Manager for Freescale’s Digital Networking group. “Powering the new virtualized network, a new family of Layerscape™ multicore processors using ARM® and Power Architecture® technologies will be Freescale’s first offerings to leverage this innovative process technology.” "Our collaboration with TSMC on 16FF+ technology will give LG strong competitiveness with respect to power, performance and area in the mobile AP market,” said Bo-ik Sohn, Senior Vice President at LG Electronics. “We believe that the product made through our partnership with TSMC will meet the widespread consumer demand for distinctive mobile technology.” "TSMC is a trusted technology partner, helping to drive MediaTek’s success over the past decade to deliver market leading SoCs,” said CJ Hsieh, President of MediaTek. “With TSMC’s first ever FinFET 3D architecture and enhanced plus version, MediaTek advances mobile and home entertainment SoCs demonstrating even faster speed, optimized power and reduced chip size. The performance boosts and power reduction for MediaTek’s processors and modem technologies, compared to previous generations, has proven TSMC’s 16FF+ to be a highly competitive process technology for our chipsets.” "NVIDIA and TSMC have collaborated for more than 15 years to deliver complex GPU architectures on state-of-the-art process nodes,” said Jeff Fisher, Senior Vice President, GeForce Business Unit, NVIDIA. “Our partnership has delivered well over a billion GPUs that are deployed in everything from automobiles to supercomputers. Through working together on the next-generation 16nm FinFET process, we look forward to delivering industry-leading performance and power efficiency with future GPUs and SOCs.” "Our partnership with TSMC enables us to address evolving semiconductor technologies and to provide state-of-the-art solutions for our customers in the automotive, industrial and ICT fields,” said Hisao Sakuta, Chairman & CEO of Renesas Electronics Corporation. “Now, we want to take full advantage of the 16FF+ technology to deliver added values for our customers in the advanced automotive information and ICT markets.” "TSMC is once again demonstrating their leadership in the industry by delivering their 16FF+ process with exceptional results,” said Moshe Gavrielov, President and CEO of Xilinx. “This risk production milestone achievement and our continued close collaboration is enabling Xilinx to realize the industry’s highest FPGA performance per watt and an unprecedented level of programmable systems integration with the industry’s first All Programmable MPSoC and 3rd Generation 3D ICs.” About TSMC TSMC is the world’s largest dedicated semiconductor foundry, providing the industry’s leading process technology and the foundry’s largest portfolio of process-proven libraries, IPs, design tools and reference flows. The Company’s owned capacity in 2014 is expected to be about 8.2 million (12-inch equivalent) wafers, including capacity from three advanced 12-inch GIGAFAB™ facilities, four eight-inch fabs, one six-inch fab, as well as TSMC’s wholly owned subsidiaries, WaferTech and TSMC China. TSMC is the first foundry to provide both 20nm and 16nm production capabilities. Its corporate headquarters are in Hsinchu, Taiwan. For more information about TSMC please visit http://www.tsmc.com.

TSMC has already begun "risk production" on their new 16FF+ (Plus) process which is 40% faster and uses 50% less power than the 20nm SoC process while at the same speed. They expect 16FF+ production to ramp up to "volume production" by July, 2015. TSMC states that the regular 16FF node is geared more towards performance chips like GPU's, while the 16FF+ will dramatically cut power usage. This leads me to believe that we're going to see nVidia GPU's on 16FF sooner than many of us are expecting. Titan 2 on 16FF? http://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom/PRListingNewsAction.do?language=E