AMD To Show Radeon RX VEGA at Computex - But no availability

#5433459

sverek

2017-05-19 08:36

tltr; "Suddenly, GPUs are difficult. Giff time."

#5433467

Kaarme

2017-05-19 09:11

I guess they are too polite to say directly that Hynix is too incompetent to get the HBM2 production working properly.

#5433492

Texter

2017-05-19 11:29

Looks more like they're trying to close the deal on that IKEA endorsement...

#5433506

alanm

2017-05-19 12:04

Developing products with billions of transistors and forward-thinking architecture is extremely difficult -- but extremely rewarding -- work. And some of Vega’s features, like our High Bandwidth Cache Controller, HBM2, Rapid-Packed Math, or the new geometry pipeline, have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development. These aren’t things that can be mastered overnight. It takes time for developers to adapt and adopt new techniques that make your gaming experience better than ever. We believe those experiences are worth waiting for and shouldn’t be rushed out the door. We’re working as hard as we can to bring you Radeon RX Vega.

Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.

#5433517

Humanoid_1

2017-05-19 12:31

just seems to me HBM2 is being more than a little awkward to produce and what little of it is available is being put on high margin low volume GFx cards of both NVidia and AMD for the professional segment. After all trying to launch before supplies are sorted out properly to the gaming market will just get them a tonne of flack due to lack of availability and damage their public perception Far more than launching later. I'm not honestly in much of a rush due to currently playing older games mostly, but still excited for the launch when it finally arrives. At least it is starting to sound like it really can be faster than the 1080Ti, looking forward to that upgrade after so long. Fury is not so great with more demanding/newer titles at 4k....

#5433524

sammarbella

2017-05-19 13:16

Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.

I agree, this look bad even at hype stage.A déjà vu. If AMD advantage in DX12 is not enough to make their GPUs more appealing for customers: Real game performance AT LAUNCH,not marketing BS, slideshows or next years performance against TODAY competition...

It takes time for developers to adapt and adopt new techniques that make your gaming experience better than ever.

...Devs are not going to make a special ACTIVE effort to support the GPUs with less market share if that means GPUs with more market share lost optimization.

#5433562

EdInk

2017-05-19 14:54

...Devs are not going to make a special ACTIVE effort to support the GPUs with less market share if that means GPUs with more market share lost optimization.

It shouldn't be much longer. I reckon the ball will start rolling when MS Scorpio drops. Devs just need a more platforms to develop games with DX12 or a variant of it.

#5433574

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-19 15:22

It's already rolling. Vega will be even more efficient with triangle throughput and graphics bottleneck, so things will be much better from the get go. I still bet it will take them a bit of time to tweak this (as it should be expected actually).

#5433579

EdInk

2017-05-19 15:25

It's already rolling. Vega will be even more efficient with triangle throughput and graphics bottleneck, so things will be much better from the get go. I still bet it will take them a bit of time to tweak this (as it should be expected actually).

".....have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development." This doesn't sound like the ball is rolling yet:)

#5433590

RooiKreef

2017-05-19 16:00

All of a sudden it feels like Rx Vega is standing on our doorsteps and about to knock the door off.

#5433596

The Commenter

2017-05-19 16:15

I can wait and it'll be worth it. My 2 Furys can rip through every game that's been made so far at 4k 60+fps so there's no rush for me.

#5433600

Denial

2017-05-19 16:20

I can wait and it'll be worth it. My 2 Furys can rip through every game that's been made so far at 4k 60+fps.

Your two fury's can hit 4K 60FPS in every single game that's been made? You must have magical furies sent by some alien civilization.

#5433602

PrMinisterGR

2017-05-19 16:24

Other than terms like "extremely difficult - but "extremely rewarding" to justify the delay and worth the wait message, have a feeling this will be another 'product for the future'. The game devs may need time to showcase Vegas fuller potential. So if initial benches are not too exciting, it will then be another AMD product you ought to buy for the future.

I know that I don't reflect most people here, and I understand them, but if I get a Vega part and I manage to keep it five years like I've kept my Tahiti I will be extremely happy.

".....have the potential to really break new ground and fundamentally improve game development." This doesn't sound like the ball is rolling yet:)

The first mainstream console to have parts of Vega will appear around November. This is essentially the same time windows as Tahiti had with the PS4.

#5433619

Skullviking

2017-05-19 16:56

Anyone else spot the intel sticker in the test bench photo, always funny :P

#5433623

Fox2232

2017-05-19 17:07

I guess they are too polite to say directly that Hynix is too incompetent to get the HBM2 production working properly.

I think that Vega has sufficient compute performance to be released in profi market. But driver for Gaming still needs work to use properly all new features, and AMD does not want to have another Borked Gaming launch. GCN 1.0 got like 15% performance boost within 1 month. GCN 1.1 got 10% within 1 month. GCN 1.2 got even 30% in some games, and it tool like 3 months. As for Polaris initial hickup, I really do not know, but pattern of new stuff and need to do driver work...

#5433624

Embra

2017-05-19 17:08

Apparently Asus will be showing off a Ryzen+Vega Rog laptop at Computex. Really interested in these Ryzen laptops. Edit: Hype link http://www.techspot.com/news/69385-asus-rog-teaser-video-shows-first-ryzen-laptop.html

#5433627

Fox2232

2017-05-19 17:14

Apparently Asus will be showing off a Ryzen+Vega Rog laptop at Computex. Really interested in these Ryzen laptops.

I hope it is Ryzen APU and it has 12~13.3" screen 🙂

#5433636

Solfaur

2017-05-19 17:42

Your two fury's can hit 4K 60FPS in every single game that's been made? You must have magical furies sent by some alien civilization.

Maybe he has 2 furries. :eyebrows: https://media1.giphy.com/media/UEBfBnce91x0Q/200w.webp?response_id=591f119b4e8b343b6ec3c7cd#36-grid1

#5433638

Loophole35

2017-05-19 17:58

I hope it is Ryzen APU and it has 12~13.3" screen 🙂

+1 and can last for more than 30 minutes on battery.

#5433672

ivymike10mt

2017-05-19 19:43

Totally BS from AMD side. They just like hold customers, to keep waiting on their product, not buy other. Fury X was "unpolished" as well as Ryzen is, and most of thier products are. ohh dear.. I don't buy this marketing BS.